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The Fallacy of Free Will in the Old Testament

A good question was raised in my fellowship with some great input from others that I have combined in the answer shown below. This question and answer is a good lesson on explaining the myth of free will to carnal babes who struggle getting past some of the horrible KJV translations that support this false doctrine that has deceived the entire world. I plan to make this a permanent post later this weekend.

Question: I was debating the fallacy of man’s free will with a friend recently and found this verse after we ended the discussion. Now, besides the many references in the Books of Moses about “free Will offerings” – I understand that to be “voluntary offerings” but this verse would be hard to explain away.

Ezra 7:13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.

This in no way shakes my foundation about the illusion of free will; this really confirms that the King James Translators were deceiving! How should this verse be addressed with those still under the influence of Babylonian doctrines? And what is the difference between “voluntary” and “free-will”?

Thanks S_________

ANSWER:  Dear S_________

There absolutely is no such thing as free will. The SUM of God’s word is the truth and makes that clear. It is horrible translation. We are clay in the hands of the potter and the Lord directs our every step and even gives us the desires of our hearts, even our very thoughts are given to us.

Amo 4:13 For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name.

So if our every thoughts are given to us, it is pretty silly to then argue we have free will. Our will is in no way free of God’s causing and working all things. The hidden wisdom of the Lord tells those that see that He is the Lord of hosts and is stretching forth the heavens and the earth as He deems fit.

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

Isa_42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

If we remember what the earth represents and where heaven is, the kingdom of God within us, then these Old Testament verses above tell us the Lord really is the Lord and is working all things in us according to His good pleasure. The Lord forms the spirit of a man and directs it whatever way HE chooses.

S________ the verse you found in Ezra is a very good example of applying the sum of thy word is truth principle. If we just read earlier in Ezra we see more truth that helps bring Ezra 7:13 in perspective. Those who left Babylon and went to Jerusalem did not of their own free will decide to do that outside of the causation of God. We see that clearly in the verses below. First we have the Lord changing the heart of the King Cyrus.

Ezr 1:1 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,

Then we are told who really decided to go back to Jerusalem and leave Babylon on their “own free will”. It was those few God chose and stirred up their heart to go. The same way HE has stirred up our hearts to come out of Babylon.

Ezr 1:2 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

So we see the LORD moving, changing, giving the “king” the very desires of his heart. The person in charge of our thoughts, THE LORD, has no problem changing the desires of any man. The Lord moves the king to put in place HIS plan to have a few leave Babylon.

Ezr 1:3 Who is there among you of all his people? his God be with him, and let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah, and build the house of the LORD God of Israel, (he is the God,) which is in Jerusalem.
Ezr 1:4 And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem.

It is no big deal to choose a few out of the many and thru them go build His temple. That is what the Lord is, was and will be doing in the hearts of men.

Ezr 1:5 Then rose up the chief of the fathers of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests, and the Levites, with all them whose spirit God had raised, to go up to build the house of the LORD which is in Jerusalem.

The theme of the Lord causing people’s hearts and spirits to be changed to go build HIS temple or tabernacle is a recurring theme in Scripture. The carnal minded free will believing crowd just won’t receive the plain truth of God’s word. The only people that will go build the tabernacle or temple of the Lord are His very Elect who will be caused to do so.

Exo 35:21 And they came, every one whose heart stirred him up, and every one whom his spirit MADE WILLING, and they brought the LORD’S offering to the work of the tabernacle of the congregation, and for all his service, and for the holy garments.

Bringing the Lord’s offering is bringing ourselves as a living sacrifice. God never really cared about oxes, sheep and doves, that was all types and shadows for the living sacrifice of HIS ELECT. Yet this is all the work of the Lord, the POTTER. HE MAKES US WILLING. HE CHOOSES US we do not choose HIM.

Which is the same thing Christ tells us, He changes not and here is the simple New Testament version saying the same thing.

Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you

Anyone that makes a “free will” offering as the KJV translators chose to translate it, have been made willing by the Lord. The Lord who is the Potter molded the clay to conform it to HIS WILL and that will was to make the willing. A dear brother from the UK, well steeped in the word of truth provided some additional insight that helps us understand the absolute sovereignty of the Lord versus the relative truth of us making choices daily.

From Brother A_____________

S_______ I also notice right there in Ezra Chapter 7, a sequence of events happened that ultimately led to few deciding to leave Babylon to go back to Jerusalem. As Pete noted above it is, was and will be God ‘behind the scenes’ stirring up hearts and preparing to WILL and to DO according to His purpose.

We can use the book of Ezra itself to answer that question that “free will” is NOT “free” at all, as long as God has the hearts of ALL involved in His hands. We can approach from another angle and ‘see’ the Spirit’s operation in directing / moving the works of the flesh, as the wind blowing where He pleases. Few can hear it or see His direction. Here are the sequence of events:

First:

God stirred up the heart of the Kings, as Pete noted, first Cyrus king of Persia, and also hidden in Chapter 7, Artaxerxes king of Persia.

A. Ezr 1:1 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,

B: Ezra 7:27 Blessed be the Lord God of our fathers, which hath put such a thing as this in the king’s heart, [Artaxerxes king of Persia] to beautify the house of the Lord which is in Jerusalem:

The heart of the Kings are in God’s hand. We have many examples, even right in the book of Ezra, it was written AGAIN….

Ezra 6:22 and kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy:for the Lord had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of God, the God of Israel.

Fulfilling this proverb:

Proverbs 21:1 The king’s heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

The Proverb above is fulfilled throughout the Kings, as it’s in all of us, and it is evident when we read even the book of Ezra itself coupled with the rest of the Scripture. The Sum of the Word makes abundantly clear.

As we see in the verse above, if Artaxerxes king of Persia has NO SELF CONTROL of his own heart, to then translate him saying this:

Ezra 7:13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.

….is hidden folly on the part of the translators?!

Second:

The thing The Lord put in the kings heart gave the thought, ‘the Word’ the decree to empower Ezra the priest to go ahead and do:

Ezra 7:21 and I, even I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which are beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily,

 Third:

The thing Ezra went up to then do was “given” of God. First, his knowledge, judgments etcetera to DO, was not of his own “free” will, but a will in the hand of the Almighty who is ‘behind the scenes’ empowering to will and to do. (Phillipians 2:12-13)

Ezra 7:6 This Ezra went up from Babylon; and he was a ready scribe in the law of Moses, which the Lord God of Israel had GIVEN: and the king granted him all his request, according to the hand of the Lord his God upon him

Never underestimate the importance and how crucial that word “according to the hand of The Lord his God UPON HIM” in that verse. It’s hidden words like those that totally debunks the myth of “free” will. The book of Ezra tells us right at the beginning the intended purpose which very few can see. It is like the Acts of the disciples, HOW the prophecies became fulfilled in that generation and the EVENTS that happened and is/will happen:

Ezr 1:1 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,

What word Jeremiah speak that specifically concerns this book? This is one of it…;

Jeremiah 29:4 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, unto all that are carried away captives, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem unto Babylon;

Jer 29:10  For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.

Jer 29:11  For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

Jer 29:12  Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.

Jer 29:13  And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Jer 29:14  And I will be found of you, saith the LORD: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.

Wow wow wow! It is GOD that CAUSED Israel to be in captivity. It surely is GOD that will gather them/us from ALL their captivity to exit Babylon back to Jerusalem.

Most Babylonish churches only recites verse 11. But the Sovereignty of God in causing captivity and releasing chains out of that captive state, which the book of Ezra shows how, is NOT seen. Couple book of Jeremiah and Ezra, let alone the rest of the scripture, and the folly and lie of “freewill” is greatly exposed.

And to put an end to that myth in the same chapter in Ezra, (this ties up neatly to your last question “And what is the difference between “voluntary” and “free-will”? ) we have this verse which underpins HOW events are being accomplished led by Ezra:

Ezra 7:10 For Ezra had prepared his heart to seek the law of the Lord, and to do it, and to teach in Israel statutes and judgments.

There we have it. “Ezra had prepared his heart….to seek…to do..to teach”. Ezra prepared his own heart?

The way this is written can explain what we mean by the word “voluntarily”, and the difference in the word “free will”.

We’ve already proven, and we know here in the Body that “freewill” or “free” moral agency is a false doctrine of the adversary, and is the almighty strong delusion covered in 2Thess 2:1-12. The “free” is false.

Voluntary however is NOT, when one can understand the operations behind it. Voluntary is from a RELATIVE point of view, from a subjective point. So from a fleshly perspective, we can say Ezra ‘voluntarily” prepared his heart. Learnt the law. Became a scribe/priest etc.

BUT….,..

From the ABSOLUTE point of view, Ezra cannot/ did not do anything of his own will. He CANNOT volunteer anything, or prepare his heart of himself simply because:

1 Chronicles 29:18 O Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, our fathers, keep this for ever in the imagination of the thoughts of the heart of thy people, and prepare their heart unto thee

Psalms 10:17 Lord, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:

All summarised by this Proverb:
Proverbs 16:1 The preparations of the heart in man, […Ezra and the Kings…] and the answer of the tongue, is from the Lord.

So the Absolute vantage point is that God is preparing hearts to do and to will. From an earthly perspective, everyday speech, we can get away with saying…”yeah, so and so volunteered….so and so did it voluntarily”. We with the mind of Christ that can see the Way of the wind, are given “seven eyes” to see BEYOND and ‘see’ in high definitions the moving behind the scenes, the causes of things, circumstances that brings one to do this or do that, long chain of events ‘behind the scenes’ that CAUSES one to arrive at a certain action/decisions. This is the way of the Spirit. Ezra or the Kings nor the people were not acting without direction. No man can direct his own steps:

Jeremiah 10:23  O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

But little by little, just like Ezra, the Lord is directing our steps/ our hearts into His will for his pleasure. No flesh can glory of this in God’s presence.

1 Thessalonians 3:11-13 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way unto you. 12 And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

His outcome, intention, end purpose is to the end to “[e]stablish our hearts unblameable”, without spots or wrinkle. This is NEVER voluntarily as we choose to decide on our own. Voluntarily can be used positively when we acknowledge that it is God that CAUSES us to say “YES, I’ll follow Christ”, “NO, I won’t do that”

Isaiah 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

Matthew 4:18-19 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea:for they were fishers. 19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. 20 And they straightway left their nets, and followed him.

The blind eye will say, “there it is, Isaiah volunteered of himself….the disciples volunteered to follow Christ OF THEIR OWN FREEWILL!”. Arrh…-sigh-.

Once again, that’s from a relative, earthly perspective. Scripture is written in such a way to deceive, cast out the lazy eye not given to see using the ABSOLUTE God’s eye, “eagle” eye vantage point.

As brother Pete stated earlier, the truth remains:

Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you

We do make choices but all those choices are caused of the Lord.

Some choices can have an appearance of “voluntary” to it. But ALL are, was and will be caused of the Lord. I’ll finish with this verse that the seven eyes can see, what caused us to do his command

2 Thessalonians 3:3-5 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. [….and HOW did Ezra the priest, and us the priests of today fulfil that?..] 5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

There it is again in the New Testament. The Lord directing hearts. The great director! 🙂

Pete Conclusions

So Scripture interprets Scripture. The SUM of God’s word is truth. Whosoever is willing to come to the Lord and forsake this world is always made willing by the Lord. The Scriptures are absolutely clear that God is working all things for the counsel of His will. He is the Potter we are the clay. The relative statements in certain Scriptures always must fit within the truth of God’s absolute sovereignty. Being Lord of Lord’s means much more than making sure birds don’t fall from the sky outside of God’s will; it includes directing every step all men take and giving us our very thoughts. The little children’s song of HE has the whole world in His hands is more true than anyone realizes!

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

The few chosen and dragged out of Babylon by the Lord are made willing by the Lord. That is what these verses and an examination of Ezra shows. None of us would every willingly, unless we were caused by the chastening grace of God to give up our life in this flesh. I first began to see the fallacy of freewill when I read and pondered the promises of the new covenant. I realized there was no YOU WILL, it was all I WILL says the Lord. I hope some of the readers will begin to realize this and try the spirits of what they heretofore have been believing.

Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Eze 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Eze 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
Eze 36:29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
Eze 36:30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

Amazing how all of these I WILL’s become man must do X,Y and Z to save himself. Oh praise God for the wondrous works of the Lord to the children. When men are saved, you can be sure the Lord and God will get all the glory and no one is going to be boasting they had any part in saving themselves.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, <strong>lest any man should boast.

The sum of thy word tells a clear picture of God’s complete and absolute sovereignty. We do make choices but all those choices are caused of the Lord. When you have a Lord who can declare to you our every thought, it is not too far fetched to then understand how He stirs up the hearts of His chosen ones to go build His tabernacle and to do His works, that we will continue to do Lord willing.

2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture at all is becoming its own explanation.

When we pit Scripture against itself or ignore some of it to make our points, we are making another jesus. Free will is a lie and keeps the whole world in strong delusion. When we put all Scripture together we see the truth and that truth is that NO MAN comes to Christ unless they are dragged.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me drag him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

We have to use the SUM of God’s word and frequently dig deep into the words to uncover the leaven that carnal translators and the traditions of men have inserted into our Bibles over 2,000 years of apostasy.

It takes a lot of time once we leave the physical building to unlearn all the lies we did learn when we were in Babylon. So many have a zeal for the Lord but without knowledge. It has not been given to them to see yet and they will continue to stagger in spiritual darkness thinking they are in the light. One day Jesus will take care of it and upon that event we will wait.

Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

I am hoping some ignoring Scripture and clinging to their idols will admit they have been blind on this issue. That is the beginning of their healing.

Sincere questions or comments can be emailed to me at peterjwilson56@gmail.com

 

A brother in Christ continuing to unlearn the lies I first believed in Babylon.

Pete

Elect, Sovereignty

The First and Last: The Alpha and the Omega

alpha-omegaRev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

All things are of God is a most important spiritual pillar that is so often spoken about on this blog and believed by so precious few.  This includes everything, the good, the bad, the dark, the light, even our very sins without any exceptions.

Eph 1:11  In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

So few are given to know this and brought into this inheritance in this life in these clay vessels.  But it does not change the immutable truth of who the Lord is and what He is doing in the lives of men.

Dan 4:35  And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Jesus is the beginning and the end.  Sure He created all things thru the power God gave to Him and it is Him who hold all things together.  These verses cannot be shown enough, if only people could believe them.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

 Rom 11:36  For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Yet these profound words of Scripture about “ALL THINGS” and the  Lord being the Alpha and Omega are far larger and profound than anyone yet carnal can comprehend, until their eyes are opened to see.

 Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

What this verse and many others like it say for those who can believe, is that all things that happen and that anyone does are from the Lord.  Jesus Christ is the first and the last, the beginning and the end.  But do you know that all men are first Adam and then the Lord from heaven?  Did you know that first comes the man of sinful flesh thru Christ and then comes the new man thru Christ? Don’t you know that flesh and blood was never intended to inherit the kingdom of God and cannot?

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

First the natural than the spiritual.  But all things in between, THE ALPHA and the OMEGA, are still all IN CHRIST. 

Paul’s words describe this macro truth and giant pillar that if you are given too see it and believe it will open up giant doors in your heaven to receive the truth and grow in knowledge of the Lord.

1Co 15:43  It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1Co 15:46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

1Co 15:47  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. (first and last)

1Co 15:48  As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

1Co 15:49  And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. (alpha and omega, beginning and the end)

So all men will go thru this process, it only matters the times appointed before hand.  You see all things have been written in our books of life before there were any such days.  That is simply how powerful God Almighty is and the carnal mind just cannot accept these truths.  But God’s Elect will simply stick with the Scriptures that sayeth this:

Psa 139:16  Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Job 14:5  Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

And yes this includes our initial marred in the flesh, rebellious and sinful state.  There are no exclusions to God’s sovereignty despite what our carnal minds might want to believe.

Isa 63:17  O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

Here is the vision of what God the potter is making and the process He has ordained for it. Contrary to Babylon folklore, man did not fall in the garden, but instead was created in bodies of sinful flesh on purpose.  And this is how ALL ISRAEL shall be saved in the end!!

Jer 18:1  The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,

Jer 18:2  Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.

Jer 18:3  Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.

Jer 18:4  And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Jer 18:5  Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,

Jer 18:6  O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

The New testament says the same thing, God’s plan never changed.  So much for the lie about the fall of mankind, it sure seems to say we were created marred ON PURPOSE!!!!!  That is Christ’s work in us.

Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Nobody has arrived in these clay vessels.  We all wait but God’s Elect, the firstfruits will understand these things and earnestly be praying for the hastening of the Lord’s work in us.  A down payment or earnest of the Spirit is awesome but we wait for the fullness of the purchased possession in our new spiritual bodies.

Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

God first gives us this experience of evil on purpose.  We have to learn good and evil and recent posts such as Who Is The Author of Evil  and I Make All Things New have spoken on those topics at length.

In God’s higher ways, our own wickedness is used to correct us in due time.  But make no mistake, this is all HIS work in us, we have nothing to do with it.  He is the alpha and the omega in our lives and the lives of every human being that has or will ever exists.

Jer 2:19 Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

Via the process of judgment we will learn good and evil and be taught the righteousness that is only found in Christ.

Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

And here is a great verse rarely seen or believed by the carnal minds of those in Babylon who cling to their strong delusion of eternal torment and free will of men.

 Psa 90:3  Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.

The fact is that everything we do is IN CHRIST.  He is the first and the last, the beginning and the end; he is the alpha and the omega.  Even the bad stuff that is cut off is IN CHRIST.  Still don’t believe?  What sayeth the Lord?

Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Joh 15:5  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Paul tells us this also, in this very profound and enlightening Scripture. The Lord is not coming in behind us cleaning up our messes, He is working all things for the counsel of His will.

Act 17:28  For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Knowing that all things that happen are not some coincidence or strange happenstance but are for the sakes of God’s very Elect is a mind blowing truth.  As we grow we can begin to look behind in our walk and see how the Lord has done these things to us.  I have suffered much of late, been stripped of many things but all those things were done for the sake of the new Peter and Christ in me to grow and for the old man Pete to die.  Even the suffering, especially the trials and the suffering.

2Co 4:15  For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.

1Pe 4:12  Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

As we begin to grow in the truth, we will finally come to understand this truth and why we should work out our own salvation with fear and not be murmuring and disputing with the carnally minded.

Php 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Php 2:13  For it is God (NOT YOUR FREE WILL) which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Php 2:14  Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

It is coming to believe and not doubt this truth  — that Christ is the first and the last and all points in between that is spiritual maturity.  We have to be brought to our wits end with our sins and be taught that of our own striving we cannot and will not conquer anything.  We are all first fools and incapable of stopping our sinning despite the outwardly clean cups we remain full of death with uncircumcised hearts.  But then the Lord comes to bring judgment and destroy that beast within us all.

Psa 107:17  Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted.

Psa 107:18  Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat (true doctrines) ; and they draw near unto the gates of death (believing false doctrines and lies such as eternal torment and free will)

Psa 107:19  Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses (when they come to see they are truly a beast and nothing good dwells in their flesh, etc)

Psa 107:20  He sent his word (causes them to hear His word spoken by the angels of God), and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.

This process begins IN CHRIST when we see and when we as the reader understand who and what is the abomination of desolation.

Mat 24:15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Once that happens then the victory will come little by little.  This is the Lord’s work in us to bring salvation and give us deliverance.  It will only take place if we are brought to Mt. Zion with spiritually speaking means into His Body.  We all will live the experience of thinking this is all up to us yet we will miserably fail. This is part of what living by every word of the Lord means.  Yet in our day of judgment, if that day has come in this age, we will learn otherwise.

Psa 107:23  They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters (CARNAL WORKS, FLESH)

Psa 107:24  These see the works of the LORD, and his wonders in the deep.

Psa 107:25  For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.

Psa 107:26  They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.

Psa 107:27  They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wits’ end.

Psa 107:28  Then (when they see they are the beast, the abomination, in need of repentance, need a physician……THEN) they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.

Psa 107:29  He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still.

Psa 107:30  Then are they glad because they be quiet; so he bringeth them unto their desired haven.

We all must be dragged to Christ.  He brings us into the desired haven, we would never make such a free will decision of our own choosing.  The real Jesus is a rock of offense and a stumbling block and we will esteem HIM NOT when we are yet carnal and devoid of ears to hear and eyes to see.

Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Revealing the antiChrist

We are all antiChrist’s when we go around believing and denying that the Lord is working all things for the counsel of His will.  We deny Jesus Christ with such carnal blasphemies.  It is the spirit of self righteousness, lying spirits that all seduce us at first.  These are the lies and false doctrines taught and believed by billions in orthodox Christianity.  Lord willing we will learn to try those spirits and our own thoughts against what the WORD says to sort out the truth from the lies.

 1Jn 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

The spirit that says Jesus Christ was not first and is not the very beginning of our lives and all points in between, the good, the bad, the sins, the stumbling, the falling into lusts and pride, etc………… IS THE LIAR.  Such a spirit denies Jesus Christ, is not from God, and will keep us in bondage and spiritually blind.  This spirit will claim God has nothing to do with our sins and those are free will decisions we ourselves make.  Those spirits, thoughts and doctrines are not from God, they are from the enemy (tares of the field) that the Lord has put there to guard the way to the tree of life.

 1Jn 4:2  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

This verse has nothing to do with anyone speaking physically that Jesus Christ came 2,000 years ago in the flesh.  It has a much greater spiritual depth and intended meaning and is speaking about Jesus Christ HIS BODY that lives in each generation and is His Elect.

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

It is only when we are given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God (the land within us) that we will be able to bow before the Lord knowing He is working all things after the counsel of His will.  Then we will come to understand what working out our own salvation with fear and trembling means, knowing it is GOD and not us that works in us to will and to way according to His good pleasure (not our delusion of free will).  And here ladies and gentlemen is an easy way to spot the deceiver in ourselves and in those that claim to know the Lord but do not.

 1Jn 4:3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Those that are truly of God will have been given ears to hear this truth and eyes to see it in the Scriptures.  It is everywhere when your eyes are opened.  Here is how we will know who is in the truth and who is not in the truth and that is whether or not our words as God’s Elect are received by those who hear us.

1Jn 4:6  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

The Lord is the one who first makes our paths crooked and then in due time comes to straighten them out.  He is doing it all, the first and the last and all points in between in our lives in these vessels of clay.  If you are so blessed to be His anointed, to be His Very Elect then these words apply to you.

 Isa 45:1  Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

See that it is the Lord doing it all.  He holds our right hand (we are His workmanship, mere clay), He subdues kings (sins in our lives, false doctrines we believe), He opens the doors and gates into His Body and in our heaven and gives us ears to hear and eyes to see as His Two Witnesses.  And no delusion of free will or anything else is going to change that, the gates shall not be shut, His word will not fail to accomplish what is has been sent to do.

If we are Cyrus in this age, then the Lord will go before us to make our formerly crooked paths straight.  He will break all the flesh gates and carnal thoughts that have held us back and kept us in bondage in Babylon.

Isa 45:2  I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

We will come to know He is the Lord when He brings judgment upon us and pours out His wrath on our carnal lusts and desires of the old man.  All things in our lives will be brought into this marvelous light.

Isa 45:3  And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

We will be dragged to Christ and His name will be written on our mind (forehead).  He is doing this to His Elect only in this age, the true Israel of God that Christ has chosen before the world was even formed.

Isa 45:4  For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Isa 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

We will learn by abiding in this fire that is Christ, that there is nothing that happens that is not the Lord doing it.  He truly is the alpha and the omega and we will come to know this with every fiber of our being in due time as we mature in the true faith of God.  We will learn a new appreciation for what Lord means and the completeness of what sovereignty really means.  Apart from Him doing it, we ourselves can do nothing and are in fact clay in the Potter’s hands.

Isa 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

We will be able to speak and show others that it was not them, but the Lord who caused all those pains and evils in their lives and they will see and believe verses such as this.

 Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

And when a door to our inner heavens is opened to these truths, then the pure doctrine will fall from the sky and come to our earth and the crops and fruit of the Lord will begin to blossom within us which is the righteousness of the saints.

Isa 45:8  Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.

When we continue to strive and not cease from our own carnal works, we will be judged.  That pothsherd (carnal mind) will be destroyed in time and we will no longer believe in any way shape or form the lie of free will that so deludes the masses of mankind.

Isa 45:9  Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Jesus is the first and the last.  He is both darkness and light.  He is everything.

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

The salvation of all men is to come.  It only awaits the timing God has already determined.  All things are of the Lord.  I trust this has given some some issues to ponder about the deep meanings of the word of God.

1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him (His Elect).
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

Questions or comments can be made here or sent to me via email at peterjwilson56@gmail.com

Your brother in Christ,

Pete

salvation

All Things Are Made New

new birthThere are no truer words the Lord spoke than these from Revelation 21. I hope you believe them, all of them and will wait on the Lord to bring it to pass.

Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

These words below speak of the same basic promise of the gospel and the mysterious process by which the Lord brings it all about in His timing.  Carnal eyes and ears cannot receive the most basic pillar and truth of the gospel that all flesh shall see the salvation of the Lord in due time.

1Ti 4:9This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.

1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Luk 3:6  And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

Flesh seeing salvation refers to man being born again as that is the only way anyone can see and enter the kingdom of God.  The making of a new baby or a new creation in Christ is a process that takes time which is why travailing in child birth is a perfect metaphor for how the Lord brings new birth to all men in their appointed times.  Being born again and remade into the image of Christ is a painful drawn out process that our flesh will never willingly embrace but thank God the Lord brings salvation to us, we have nothing to do with it.  It will come to us suddenly when we think all is well in our spiritual walk.

1Th 5:3  For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Isa 13:8  And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.

We have no idea what “all things” actually means when we read these scriptures at first, being yet carnal, and walking after the flesh. Yet that is the deep mystery of godliness and how Christ is formed in us little by little. With time we can look back and see from whence we have come.

2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

If we are not yet in the true Christ then all things won’t be new and we will be fitting in quite nicely with this world and its traditions. The outside of our cup may be cleaned up a bit but inside we are still full of death which is where sin lives in our hearts.  Our judgment is yet future but it will come and a day comes when our religion will be showed the vanity it truly is.  Here are the words of Christ that never pass away that we will hear in that day.

Mat 23:27  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.

The promise of the New Covenant, that comes first to God’s Elect in each generation and will come to all men in the lake of fire is that they will be changed.  They will be remade into a new creation and all sin and inequity will be purged from their bodies, hearts and minds.  This is all the work of the Lord, it is salvation and it comes through the chastening of God which is HIS TRUE GRACE.

Being Conformed to His Image

Contrary to the lies of Babylon, man was not made perfect and was never intended to inherit the kingdom of God in these fleshly marred vessels of clay. We all have to be remade and that only in the appointed times. Otherwise you can begin to cut out huge swatches of Scriptures including all of these passages that speak to us being remade and conformed to the image of the Son of God.

Rom_8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

1Co_15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

2Co_3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Col_3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

This remaking is all the Lord’s work and is done only on His preordained timing.

Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

 Being Called Into Babylon

When we are first called of the Lord we often make profound outward changes in our lives. Perhaps we stop drinking, overcome addictions, shut our eyes from looking at dark things like pornography, stop gambling, start going to church, praying; all manner of OUTWARD signs yet our hearts are still not changed. This is really just step 1 of God’s process when one of our beastly heads is wounded by the sword which is the word of God.

Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

But that wound is quickly healed in Babylon and we remain a beast at heart despite our outward changes and profession of faith. Being yet carnal we speak like a dragon speaking blasphemies against the true doctrines of Christ.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast (the religious you and me) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

But a day will come, in this life or AION if we are God’s Elect when we will know He is the Lord and by His hands we are remade and our old way of life is destroyed from the inside out.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;

Rom 2:29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

Our healing only comes when the lying spirits and false doctrines are cast out of us by Christ speaking the words of truth to us.

Luk 11:20 But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Those days spent living in the lies and darkness of Babylon are a necessary part of coming to know the real truth in our appointed times but in the meantime we will think we serve God deceiving and being deceived by the false doctrines and false prophets

Jer 29:4 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, to all who were carried away captive, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem to Babylon:

Jer 29:5 Build houses and dwell in them; plant gardens and eat their fruit.

Jer 29:6 Take wives and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons and give your daughters to husbands, so that they may bear sons and daughters—that you may be increased there, and not diminished.

Jer 29:7 And seek the peace of the city where I have caused you to be carried away captive, and pray to the LORD for it; for in its peace you will have peace.

Jer 29:8 For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Do not let your prophets and your diviners who are in your midst deceive you, nor listen to your dreams which you cause to be dreamed.

Jer 29:9 For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them, says the LORD.

Jer 29:10 For thus says the LORD: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place. .. (make all things new!)

We like Peter and all the disciples will at first think we understand the things of the Spirit.   These are not words for them, they are words of us all as we must live by every one of them in the appointed times.

Luk 18:34 But they understood none of these things; this saying was hidden from them, and they did not know the things which were spoken.

At this stage we will be boldly confident yet still carnal and spiritually clueless to the truth of God’s words, the blind leading the blind.

1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.

1Co 3:2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;

1Co 3:3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?

Yet Christ will renew our strength once He truly comes in the Spirit.

Luk 22:32 But I have prayed for you, that your faith should not fail; and when you have returned to Me, strengthen your brethren.”

Of course this returning to Christ is nothing of our own will or initiative; it is all of the Lord’s doing in His perfect timing. Nobody comes to Christ unless they are dragged there.

Joh 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me drags him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

THE LORD IS FAITHFUL TO HIS PROMISES

I have been blessed thru many painful trials and tribulations to know at my deepest core how true and faithful these words of Jesus Christ are to the lives of every single man and woman that has or ever will be born. All things will be made new in due time and you can take that promise of the Lord thru His Word to the bank as He is faithful and true.

2Ti 2:13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

Psa 89:1 A Contemplation of Ethan the Ezrahite. I will sing of the mercies of the LORD forever; With my mouth will I make known Your faithfulness to all generations.

Psa 89:2 For I have said, “Mercy shall be built up forever; Your faithfulness You shall establish in the very heavens.”

The Lord made a covenant with all men and He is going to be faithful to bring it about in due time. But only a few will be given the faith to believe the Lord now. It matters not the rebellion of sinful flesh and the marred vessels the Lord has created.

Psa 89:31 If they break My statutes And do not keep My commandments,

Psa 89:32 Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, And their iniquity with stripes.

Psa 89:33 Nevertheless My lovingkindness I will not utterly take from him, Nor allow My faithfulness to fail.

Psa 89:34 My covenant I will not break, Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.

One can believe the Lord if they have faith or they can believe the false doctrines of Babylon and the lies of eternal torment and free will along with two hundred million other lies.

When we first begin to see the truth, we have no idea the extent, the breadth and depth and width of what “all things” being made new actually means. It takes much maturing, many trials and tons of patience to learn these spiritual truths and lessons as we endure the chastening grace that comes upon only God’s very Elect in this age

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth (not those he hates, but loves) he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

New Life Thru Death and War

According to Christ, new life comes not until something dies.

Joh 12:24 Most assuredly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces much grain.

Joh 12:25 He who loves his life will lose it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.

The Lord has had me in a season of great travail and has been be changing many of things that had represented the old Peter. That old man is sufficiently dead that I can boldly say to those that knew me, that the old Pete is no more.

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Being baptized into his death means a lot more than stopping smoking, cussing and watching TV.  It means ALL THINGS will be made new, the old man will be completely done away with.

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

We don’t die without resisting. Just like animals our fright and flight instincts kick in and we will strive to do whatever we can to keep our old man and beastly nature alive. Yet when Christ makes war, there is nothing that will stop His will from being accomplished.  LOL the carnal logic that has God Almighty dependent upon pieces of clay to bring about His will!!!!

Job 23:13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

If we think Christ comes to bring peace to us initially, we have another thing coming. Christ came not to bring peace but war. When Christ comes, He comes not to bring peace or bring unity, but He comes to make war and cause division.

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword 

Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

This is the process of salvation coming to us beginning with the death to our old way of life. That is what true repentance means and whether we repent or not, it is all the Lord’s work, our delusion of free will has nothing to do with it.

Psa 90:3 Thou (GOD DOES IT) turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.

Isa 63:17  O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? 

The war that Christ brings when He appears to us to begin remolding us into a vessel of honor does not take place out there in space, it takes place in heaven which is in the hearts and minds of God’s very Elect.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Please see this link for a recent study on where heaven is.  THE SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE OF HEAVEN

The coming of Christ to make war and make all things new separates His Chosen Ones from the rest of the world. The sword that is His word divides us and also divides the old man from our new man (Christ in us). This is a great mystery we must be given the ears to hear and eyes to see by the Lord.  Salvations comes to us by the trials that the Lord in His mercy brings upon His Very Elect in this age. That is how we are refined in the fire and all things are made new.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

1Pe 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

My old life has been destroyed by these trials and in that I rejoice because that is how we learn righteousness and come to possess “eternal” aka aionious life right here and right now.

Isa 26:9With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

Thy judgments are only in the earth of God’s Elect in this life or AION.

1Pe 4:17  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God

We don’t possess eternal life unless and until we know the real Christ.  Few do

Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The destruction of our old man in our day of judgment is the very essence of the good news and how the Lord plans to remold us into His image. This mystery has in turn been twisted by carnal men into the lie and false doctrine of eternal torment that is believed by billions of people to this very day.

Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

But to those with ears to hear and eyes to see, we have come to see this is the wonderful works of God to the children of men and is the process, the method by which we all are saved in due time.  Here is the good news coming to us, the fire that is the word of God coming to teach us righteousness thru the process of judgment and suffering.

2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting (age abiding not eternal) destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

 The Two Vessels of Clay in His Hand

The making of all things new is likened to the Lord being a potter and remaking the first vessel of clay He makes into a new vessel. Speaking about Isreal, His Elect and chosen few, the Lord says this thru the prophet.

Jer 18:3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.

Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

The Master Potter promises God’s Elect that all things will be made new when Christ comes to a second time for salvation without sin. This process begins when our day of the Lord commences . But first we will spend our appointed time as the false witness, a vessel of dishonor, knowing and serving Him in the flesh. Yet a day will come beginning with Christ’s first fruits or His Elect to remake those marred vessels into vessels of honor in the house of God.

Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

It is by the Lord showing His wrath against our carnal mind and lusts (the old man) that He will make it known to us the riches of His glory. In actuality, contrary to what we learn in Babylon, the mercy of the Lord is actually having this judgment of God fall upon us and living thru the wrath against our old nature. This is a great mystery the world cannot receive in these above verses from Romans 9.

Mankind is indeed clay in the hands of God. It is IN HIM that all men, live, breathe, think and have their very being.

Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

A dear sister just showed me and others that being IN HIM is the same as fulfilling this profound statement by Christ. He is the Word.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

The first Adam is the man of sin (in all of us) and was never intended to enter the kingdom of God. The first vessel we all are in the flesh I, was and will be marred and that on purpose by the Lord.

Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Some of the plainest Scriptures describing the two step process are right here in 1 COR 15 as is the salvation of all men in due time, but very few can hear what is being said.

1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; (marred, subject to vanity, sinful flesh, corruption, etc) it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the kingdom of God. Our being flesh is simply the first step in God’s two step plan for all men.

Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Psa 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin (FLESH) did my mother conceive me.

The Last Days Usher in Salvation and all things new

Those who doubt the absolute sovereignty of God do not know what it means to be a potter molding clay in one’s hands and have no appreciation for God’s plan for all men in their appointed times.   This is the “last days” for each of us, our time of Christ coming to us to bring judgment and begin the process of remolding the clay into the new vessel.

Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

The time of the end, is a day and hour unique to all of us, it is our personal day of the Lord, the day of judgment, not a literal day but a period of time, the process by which our marred “chief of sinners” vessel of clay is remolded into a new vessel.   This begins when we HEAR the word of the Lord and arise and go to the Lord’s house (the real Body of Christ) and where we see with spiritual eyes and ears that are CAUSED to hear (no free will involved whatsoever). Amazing how prideful carnal babes will be shown such convincing scripture such as this but cannot see it and cannot hear it as the Lord is keeping them in darkness to this most basic plan of God.

Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Isa 64:7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Notice it is not our sins or unrighteousness that is filthy rags, but it is the very righteous things we do that we take credit for and boast about claiming free will that truly deceive us and keep us snared in darkness imprisoned in Babylon. But in the last days for each of us, the Lord will come to be exalted in our heavens.

Isa_2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Mic_4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Act_2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

In the appointed times for all, the Lord will return a second time without sin for salvation, which means giving us dominion over sin, setting us free from sins power in our lives.

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Gaining Dominion and Victory Little By Little

The past year has been a life changing season for me. I can now look back and see the Lord’s hand in all of us, doing the very things I have written about in this post. The war in my heavens and the coming of Christ has not brought peace but a war. But Christ is winning and the old Pete and his kingdoms have been destroyed little by little, town by town, city by city, idol by idol. All things are being made new by the shaking. A new way of life has emerged.

 Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Christ in me has been feasting on the enemies within me and the kingdoms of the beast, the chief of sinners that gathered against the Lord.  When He to make war in your heavens, to remold and shape you then we will begin to understand what God being a consuming fire really means and it has nothing to do with eternal punishment.  It has everything to do with God bringing salvation to all men by destroying the beast and false prophet within us all.

Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

Rev 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. (PRAISE GOD FOR HIS WAYS!)

Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

When Christ comes to us in the AION presdestinated for us all, if we are God’s very Elect, He is going to finish the good work He has started in us. The destruction of our old man and old way of life will indeed be complete. The Lord leaves no stone unturned, no lies in our heaven, the light that is Christ will via His PROCESS of judgment make all things new.

I hope my rambling musings here have helped some struggling with the seemingly slow process the Lord ordains to change us into His image. I encourage you to be patient and wait upon the Lord and you will not be disappointed. The Lord work patiently with us and even tells us why, so we will know He did it and our carnal mind had nothing to do with our salvation.

Luk 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls

Exo 23:29 I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.

Exo 23:30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.

If we are given the faith to believe, we can then enter into His rest and wait on the Lord to do His great work in us. In due time we shall not be ashamed.

Psa 25:3 Yea, let none that wait on thee be ashamed

Following in Christ Suffering

Php 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

The death of Jesus Christ did not finish or eliminate the need for His Christ to go die with Him, it just showed us the way.  He was sent to suffer and be sacrificed for the people and so shall His Christ follow in that model.

Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Joh 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

Rather than lamenting these things, which we will of course all do initially, we should rejoice. Nobody will say it is a blessing to be persecuted or spoken evil about but what sayeth the Lord.  Don’t forget who is blessed so says the Lord.

Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Walking in the light is walking in Christ which is the Word. This is done by being actively engaged and fellowshipping with the true Body of Christ.  This is how we are cleansed being washed by the water of the word and all things are made new. This is the way of salvation and making of all things new.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Take heart and wait on the Lord to finish His good work and bring His promises to fruition.  He will do it.

Rev 21:5  And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

The new birth is coming to all, it only awaits the times and seasons appointed by God.

 Your brother in Christ,  PETE

GRACE, judgment, Sovereignty

Carnal Questions That Demand Answers

carnal questions

Rom 9:18  Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Rom 9:19  Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? 

When we are first exposed to the truth that God is sovereign and is actually causing ALL THINGS, yes even our very sins; we go crazy with all kinds of carnal questions.    This is quite natural and the process of learning the truth of God’s ways takes time.  It takes time for us to grow into knowledge of the grace of God and understanding His ways.  The ways of the Lord are far far different than the ways of  the natural man and indeed we at first think the truths of God’s word as foolishness.

2Pe 3:18  But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

1Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

We really have no appreciation for these verses until much time has passed and we have our carnality burned out of us.

Isa 55:8  For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

Isa 55:9  For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

The purpose of this post is to address a couple of those “carnal questions” as a follow-up to my post on God being responsible for evil in this world. Paul speaking of the true gospel and the salvation of all by faith thru grace was viciously rejected and scorned by the religious of his day. It has not changed my friends, these are experiences and the words of the Lord that we as God’s Elect will live in our appointed times. By preaching the salvation of all men nobody is suggesting or encouraging anyone to continue to do evil and engage in sin. Yet we like Paul, a type and shadow of all God’s Elect,  will be slandered and accused of doing just that.

Rom 3:5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)
Rom 3:6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
Rom 3:7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
Rom 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

God’s Elect will never say any such a thing about sin. It is a false accusation that will come to all of God’s Elect. What we do say is that without the intervention of Christ into our inward heavens we have no chance of obeying God in the weakness of sinful flesh. We will speak the truth that when we do fall into sin or stumble that it is the Lord working that sin in us for His good pleasure and purposes.  That is the truth so very few are given to receive.  But what do the Scriptures plainly teach.

Php 2:13  For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Isa 64:8  But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Rom 7:17  Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Rom 7:18  For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

While we are still abiding in Babylon, the harlot apostate churches of men that promote another jesus we will not be aware of our sinfulness.  The fact that we are still blind, wretched and naked is far removed from our spiritual vision.  We are blind as bats until the Lord opens our eyes and causes us to see and to hear His word.  We won’t know any of this until our day of judgment arrives and we are given eyes to see the abomination that is causing desolation and our need for a Savior is made perfectly clear to us.

Rev 3:17  Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

Mat 24:15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

2Th 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;  (You, me, the old man within all mankind)

Joh 9:39  And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

While we are blind and held captive in Babylon, we will fool many that similar to us have the outside of the cup cleaned but inside are still full of dead men’s bones, walking in spiritual death and separated from God all the while claiming to know Him.  We may know him in the flesh but at this point we do not know Him in the Spirit.  Those that claim to be in the truth and teachers of the blind, are those for whom Christ saves His harshest rebuke.

Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.

It is indeed by grace we are saved and not of our works or any delusion of our free will choosing God. God’s Elect will even be falsely accused of exalting themselves for merely speaking the truths that were GIVEN to them. Such is the narrow way and part of the cross we carry in our times.  We are not better than anyone, all men are sold under sin.

Rom 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

But we do have one thing they do not have and that is the gift of faith.  This is indeed GIVEN to very few and with that gift comes the gift of spiritual ears to hear and eyes to see the truth of God’s words.

Mat 13:16  But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Mat 13:17  For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

Without further ado let’s look at the questions.

Question #1 – Let’s just live it up and sin like crazy

The first question of the carnal mind is that if all men are going to be saved, why don’t we just go ahead and live it up to the fullest. Let’s eat, drink and be merry is our most immediate thought.  I can’t tell you how many times this has been asked by those that believe the Lord is going to torment most of His creation forever without end.  An obvious rebuke of such carnal mindedness is to challenge the person asking this question why do they say they love God if they don’t have an overwhelming desire to obey Him?

Luk 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?

At the end of the day, the love of God has a definition and that definition is based on obedience.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

When we ask these questions we do not understand or believe God’s plans for the ages and the purposes and function of the Elect. Yet without going into that in this post,  the primary causation we ask this carnal question in our walk is that we do not yet understand what God’s grace really is and its function.  We have yet to learn that grace is what chastens. Grace is what scourges us. Grace is the righteousness judgment of God against all our ungodliness.

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching (Chastening) us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

The word translated TEACHING in Titus 2:12 is the greek word paideuo and it means TO CHASTEN. So sure when we are chastened we learn so the word teaching is not that far off, but it does obscure the real meaning and waters down the point.

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Total KJV Occurrences: 13

chastened, 3
1Co_11:32, 2Co_6:9, Heb_12:10

chasteneth, 2
Heb_12:6-7 (2)

chastise, 2
Luk_23:16, Luk_23:22

chasten, 1
Rev_3:19

instructing, 1
2Ti_2:25

learn, 1
1Ti_1:20

learned, 1
Act_7:22

taught, 1
Act_22:3

teaching, 1
Tit_2:12

So we learn when we are taught, and we are taught when we are chastened. That is the function and purpose of grace, it is how we are CAUSED to obey God in due time.

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Being scourged is not fun. Yet that is what we are told the Lord does to every son He loves and receives unto Himself. We saw it above but it needs to be pounded home thru thick carnal minds.  EVERY SON God loves is scourged and that is actually a blessing because the old man must be killed for the new man to come forth.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

So when you understand all men are saved and if true faith has come to you, then judgement has fallen upon your house. You are now under grace and not the law.

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

When this happens in our life, we will not take the attitude of let’s eat, drink and be merry. We will quickly learn that we indeed reap what we sow. DO NOT BE DECEIVED.

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

We will learn, be taught, when we are caused to sin and then God bring judgment upon us and we are scourged with great trials and afflictions.

Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you (BY GRACE) to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Grace MAKES us obey God in the appointed times.  It is how the old man is put away and the new man arises.

Psa 23:2  He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

Once we know this and God’s ways, we should not think it strange when these trials come.  We should count them all as joy, knowing their purpose.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Jas 1:2  My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

Jas 1:3  Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

That is the purpose of the furnace, it is the purpose of the afflictions, that is the true grace of God in action. That is how the old man is decreases and the new man is increased in us. This is how the beast is destroyed by the fire that is the word of God.

Isa 48:10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Act 14:22Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Let’s keep in mind that fire is the WORD of God.  Fire is what saves us (baptism of fire) when it work in us and burns the sin and inequity out of our hearts and minds.  We are saved BY THE FIRE, yet Babylon teaches us salvation means avoiding the fire.  All men will be purified by the fire that is God’s word in the appointed times, which is our ordained day of judgment.  When grace is poured out upon us thru faith,  the old man is not going to make it much longer.  No man or beast can stand.

1Co 3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Mal 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap:
Mal 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.

The beast is no match for Christ and will be destroyed by the fiery grace of God.  So we will learn to truly tremble at the word of God, knowing of His absolute sovereignty. So the carnal reasoning that we will say let’s just go ahead sin so grace may abound is flawed. That is the last thing God’s Elect will be doing or teaching to anyone. We will learn that when we sin, the Lord simply turns up the heat. The Lord will simply ratchet up the grace dial and will keep on doing it until we get it. Eventually, we will learn to fear God and will be given the faith to stop sinning. That is how it works friends and it is a long process.

Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Rom 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

I guarantee you will not have the attitude of let’s sin so grace may abound once you are given ears to hear and eyes to see. When you understand free will is strong delusion you will be crying and sighing over all the abominations and sin committed in your spiritual house. Because you know this is against the commands of the Lord and you have the certain expectation of ongoing fiery judgment, there is no escape, we reap what we sow.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation (IE GRACE POURED OUT UPON YOU), which shall devour the (inward) adversaries (of sin and rebellion)
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

When you truly understand grace, then you will begin to be taught the fear of the Lord.  You will know that the Lord will have vengeance and you will get away with no sin.  If you sin, the dial on the furnace is simply increased.  Oh thank God for these wonderful works of God to the children of men,  they will teach you to fear God in due time.

Deu 4:10  Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.

Isa 33:6  And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure.

These verses above from Hebrews 10 are used by many that are blinded to the truth of the salvation of all men. These are used to support the lie of eternal hell but what this is speaking about is the righteous judgment of God and that is the way we are saved. Understanding that salvation is the method we are delivered of our sins, meaning we no longer commit them and are given power to rule over sin is key. God’s plan has never changed, it was always the way we are to be redeemed and remade into children of the most high God.

Exo 6:6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments (MUCH CHASTENING GRACE, MUCH SCOURGING OF THE OLD MAN):

It is this process of having God’s wrath poured out upon our sins and inequities, i.e. GRACE that chasten, that teaches….. that we learn the fear of the Lord. We won’t learn this until we are in the midst of God’s Elect and the chastening grace of God’s judgment is upon His house. Knowing these truths about grace will eliminate any carnal thoughts that we might as well eat, drink and be merry.  It is indeed a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Now let’s consider a second yet related question our carnal minds focus on when hearing of God’s truths.


Carnal Question #2
– Then Why Does God Find Fault

The second carnal question is why does the Lord judge us and bring punishment upon us when He is the one that is causing us to sin.  Since He is the Potter and we the clay, why does He still find fault with us when we stumble? A very good questions which demands an answer and one we best know to walk the narrow way.

This section of Romans 9 addresses this question and provides the proper answer. We are told the Lord has mercy on some and hardens the hearts of others against His ways and His word.  Why does He then find fault since nobody is resisting God’s will. God’s will is being done all the time, we truly are the works of His hands.

Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

The Lord has a method to His seeming madness.  As I wrote about in the post Who Is Responsible For Evil,  our purpose in this life is to learn good and evil, that is a necessary step to become like God.

Gen 3:22  And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

When we complain and grumble to the Lord about what He is doing in our lives, we are contending with God.  He knows what He is doing and we need to have faith and to believe and know that whomsoever will wait on the Lord will not be ashamed in the end.  He will be faithful to His promises and will indeed finish the good works He has started in this age in the lives of His Elect.  We all like JOB will contend with the Lord but it is thru these very contentions that we will be judged and will learn the truth.

Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

To convert us from carnal Christians to the new man that walks in the Spirit a lot of lies have to be burned out of us.  We have to learn that the Lord really is the Lord and that we of ourselves can indeed do nothing.  This is such a pivotal verse I often cite and I do hope you are beginning to get it.

Joh 15:5  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

The real answer on why God finds fault is so He can bring judgment upon us.  It pleases Him to crush His sons, in the flesh and to destroy the old man and carnal nature of the first vessel made from the clay.  The Babylonian lie of the fall of mankind also is blown up by the truth of knowing and believing the Lord really is the Potter and has a two step process in store for all men.  The Lord has to cause your ears to be open to hear it.

Jer 18:2 Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.

Jer 18:3  Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.

Jer 18:4  And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Jer 18:5  Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,

Jer 18:6  O house of Israel (God’s Elect)  cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

So Paul continues in Romans 9 and tells us the mystery of how Christ is formed in us and the old man is destroyed and the man brought forward.  This is the purpose of God finding fault.

Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Lord of Heaven & Earth

The purpose of God finding fault is to bring judgment and the purpose of judgment is to teach us His ways and to reveal Himself to us and remake us so that we are partakers of His Holiness.

Heb 12:10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 

Flesh and blood is not entering into the kingdom of God.  Experiencing fiery grace is for our profit just as this Scripture tells us.  It must go and thus the requirement for all of us to be remade and go through the fiery judgment of God against our flesh.    During this process, we are going to learn that being Lord truly means He is the Lord of all things and most certainly the inward heavens and the earth that represent each of us lumps of clay made of the earth.

Deu_4:39  Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

Perhaps you can begin to apply these physical words in the spirit and look inside where the kingdom of God actually resides.

Isa_66:1  Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

1Ch_29:11  Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.

This process of judgment starts with the house of God (the Elect or the House of Israel etc) but all men will in due time learn righteousness when judgment is fallen upon them.

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

It is a good thing the Lord finds fault, otherwise we would not learn His ways.  Think about how a child in the natural learns or we learn on the job.  We learn by doing, by making mistakes and being corrected.  It is no different in the spiritual.  When we fall down and sin, the Lord brings chastening which is judgment and that comes in the form of afflictions and tribulation.

Psa 119:71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.

Act 14:22  Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

These judgments of the Lord bring afflictions to the old man and are necessary to destroy the beast and our carnal nature that puts, ME MYSELF and I as numero uno, all the while we claim to serve the Lord.  What will help align all Scripture is your coming to see that judgment is good, very good. It is the process by which we are changed into the likeness and image of Christ. Without it we could never learn obedience and let’s remember how we learn obedience.

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Psa 119:7  I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.

Christ, meaning His Body, the Elect;  all learn obedience by the things we suffer. This is the mystery of how Christ is formed in all men in their appointed time.  It starts with the Body of Christ filling up in the afflictions of Christ for the sake of the church.  This comes about by judgment and that is why the Lord is in the fault finding business, to teach us.  This is a great mystery, a secret that few are given the spiritual eyes to see and ears to hear yet it is right in our Bibles.

Col 1:24  Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church:

Col 1:25  Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

Col 1:26  Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Col 1:27  To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Whoever said the finished works of Jesus Christ on the cross means you don’t have to suffer and die is a liar and knows not the Lord.  Anyone telling you about a rapture and that you are saved from God’s judgment is blind as a bat.

Judgment is good, very good, sweeter than honey and it is how the new man is formed and the old man is decreased in all of us.

Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
Psa 19:10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Psa 19:11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Judgment is how we learn the fear of God and this is what causes us to obey in due season.  So God finding fault with us and bringing judgment is a very good thing.   Psalm 119 has many verses that tell of this mysterious truth.

Psa 119:39  Turn away my reproach which I fear: for thy judgments are good.

Psa 119:66  Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments.

Psa 119:67  Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

Psa 119:71  It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.

With God’s judgment, comes afflictions and these are designed to benefit the new man.  Those wise in the ways of the Lord will come to see how the Lord works His mysteries and brings forth Christ in us thru much tribulation and afflictions of all kinds.

Psa 119:75  I know, O LORD, that thy judgments are right, and that thou in faithfulness hast afflicted me.

Psa 119:76  Let, I pray thee, thy merciful kindness be for my comfort, according to thy word unto thy servant.

We may not know it now or feel joyful now in the midst of our trials and afflictions when our Loving Father brings His wrath and fury against our sins and wicked nature.  One day though we will be able to look back, once salvation has come to us and be very glad the Lord loved us enough to bring His wrath and anger against our sins. I just saw this gem over in Psalms.

Psa 90:15  Make us glad according to the days wherein thou hast afflicted us, and the years wherein we have seen evil.

Which also reminds us of what the purpose of this life is all about.

Ecc 1:13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens:it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.

Some of these things are hard to understand at first so please ask if you have sincere questions.  The scriptures are not broken, they tell this wonderful truth from Genesis to Revelation.

The only way to come to know the Lord is thru the process of judgment. I have written extensively on this topic but if you will just search for the phrase “know the Lord” or “know I am the Lord” you will see the context is always, 100% of the time, the old man within us, the beast that all flesh is, being judged by having the wrath of God poured out upon us. Here is a link to an older post focused on that topic.

http://truthinscripture.com/2012/11/11/then-you-shall-know-i-am-the-lord/

Pressing Onward To the Highest Calling of God

So I hope you can now understand the purposes of the Lord in finding fault when we sin and stray from His ways.  Even though He is the one causing it and working that in our lives;  it is by the process of Him bringing judgement upon us that we learn His ways and become like Him, knowing good and evil.  The Lord works evil for good and that really is the mystery of how Christ is formed in us and we learn good and evil.

Gen 50:20  But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

All men will go thru this process.  The only thing that separates the Elect is that we will be judged in this life while still in fleshly bodies.  We will experience our death to the old man and carnal mind first.  We will then be in the first resurrection and will be used to bring the rest of mankind thru the process of judgment at the second resurrection.  It is a very good thing that we be judged now, it is far better than being judged later with the rest of the world.

1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
1Co 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Far greater honor to be a priest and king of the Lord and to rule and reign with Him for the Millennium Reign and then be the judges of the world and bring the knowledge of Christ to all mankind.  That is why we press onward and upward for the higher calling of God.  That is why we as God’s Elect depart from inequity and strive to not be disqualified for such a great reward.  Here are three scriptures that speak of the critical role and function given to the very few that are God’s Very Elect.

1Co 6:2  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1Co 6:3  Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Mat 19:28  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel (all mankind in the end)

Rev 20:4  And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Sincere comments or questions are welcome.  You can also email me at peterjwilson56@gmail.com

Your brother in Christ,  Pete