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Leaving The “Eternal Judgment” vs The Day of Judgment

“The “Eternal Judgment” vs The Day of Judgement”

Studies by teachers combined into one study by Ronel.

What are the milk doctrines?

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

These six milk doctrines are simply the beginning of our walk and not the end nor the result of the end of our walk. However, it is an extremely vital step in us to “beginning” and “progressing” towards the mark of the prize of the high calling in Christ Jesus. We are taught these doctrines in the orthodox churches of the world, all denominations.

We are told to go beyond the milk doctrines:

We are to begin to mature to the point where we are, as Paul was, in that we press towards the mark of the prize of the High Calling in Christ Jesus. There is a reason we must do this, and it is to obtain the righteousness of Christ, because anyone living on milk and not starting to digest solid food will quickly die.

Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

(NIV) Heb 5:13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.

(NIV) Heb 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

We leave and move past those things which result in spiritual death but are the beginning of life to those who mature past them. The focus of today’s study specifically is moving past the doctrine of “eternal judgment” and maturing into the life which is Jesus Christ. As always, let’s leave the Scriptures to teach us and not go above that which is written on the subject. Let us also study to show ourselves approved, a workman not needing to be ashamed.

 1Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and [ to] Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Define “Eternal Judgment”, first, look at the word “eternal”:

ETERNAL – IS IT REALLY ETERNAL? Our modern English word eternal means WITHOUT a beginning and WITHOUT an end. In the Holy Scriptures, the Greek word is aionios and the corresponding Hebrew word is olam. The root for aionios is the noun aion. The English equivalent of the Greek word aion is eon or age. It is defined as a PERIOD OF TIME. A period of time has a BEGINNING, when the age began, a MIDDLE or DURING the age, as seen many times in the scriptures, and there is an END of the time or age, where the age is ended. Examples of this:

The New King James states it correctly: 1Co 2:7 (NKJV) But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,

New King James version: Tit 2:12 (NKJV) teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,

1Co 10:11 (NKJV) Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

To conclude: “Aionian” judgment means AGE-LASTING, pertaining to a period of time; when will judgment begin if it is “eternal”? When will judgment end if it is “eternal”?

Now, look at the second word “judgment” i.e. “eternal judgment”:  It is the Greek word G2917, “krima”

G2917

κριμα

krima

Total KJV Occurrences:28

judgment, 12

damnation, 7

condemnation, 5

avenged, 1

condemned, 1

judgments, 1

law, 1

Let’s read several verses to see the meaning of this word:

Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Rom 3:8 And not [ rather], (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.

1Ti 5:12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

Luk 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

1Co 11:34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.

Jas 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

Luk 24:20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.

We are first banished, confined or imprisoned in chains in a realm that is known as “death” (age lasting condemnation/damnation), banished in trespasses and sins, even as all in Adam (flesh) are first held in death. This is the necessary first step before the true judgment of God/Day of Judgment begins in our lives, according to this Word and principle;

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

This is all one and the same thing in the Spirit, as being in darkness, abode of “hell”, in disobedience committing sins as it is written:

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

1Pe 4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries!

1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1Jn 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Peter reminds us for whom and where this darkness and blindness is in the Spirit.

2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh [you and I in our time and season!] in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, [when we all had doctrine of ‘freewill’ in our hearts] they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

So being chained in darkness, in death, banished in a spiritual realm called “hell”, walking after the flesh is the pre-requisite for all judgment of God. It is also at that time, while we were dead in trespasses and sin that the gospel is first preached to us, and the Word of God is preached while we dwelt under the shadow of death that is our old ministers and pastors under the Law in the orthodox Christian churches.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

The fruitless works of darkness:

Being in death produces the fruits and works of death.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

o eternal judgment, one of the milk doctrines, is really “age abiding damnation and or condemnation” which has a beginning and an end and everything in-between! If we are His, the Lord and “His Christ” come to save us from this condition so that true judgment can begin, righteous judgment in our Day of Judgment.

It must be known from early on that ALL God’s ways are judgment, bringing His creation into a process of time, an age in which we are continuously under judgment. Our Day of the Lord!

Let us now ask who is the Judge in this Day!

There is only one Judge who is bringing all judgment and verdicts through one Lord Jesus Christ.

Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

All that the Father of spirits does is through the only begotten son, one Lord Jesus Christ/Living Word and “His Christ”;

1Co 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Is that authority and judgment independent of the Father? Is being “given” a position, an office of judgment suggestive of doing what one wants, judging out of one’s own ideas, principles, and own witness? The Lord answers us:

Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; [why is it just?] because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

True judgment begins in our Day of the Lord, where is this place of judgment:

Age lasting judgment takes place wherein the Judge comes, which is within God’s people now in these bodies of clay.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you, Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The Son has been committed all judgment, and when He comes to the realm of our time, in this earthen body of clay of our minds and hearts, then judgment is said to begin. The Lord comes into the darkness of our fleshly hearts in great Light, for a period of time. From when He begins until judgment is finished in us, is what is scripturally known as “age-lasting judgment.” Since the flesh cannot abide ‘forever’, the judgment is for an appointed period of time.

Order of Judgement:

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; [the Head] afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming [His Body].

The rest of uncalled mankind and the great multitude gathering unto Christ in the flesh will be judged at a later judgment day called the great white throne judgment. The flesh, imprisoned in a very dark place called hell, or Greek ‘Hades’, in Hebrew ‘Sheol’, are all fallen into the deep pit to be redeemed and judged at a later time, which in the mind of Christ. The masses all sleep the sleep of ‘Death’.

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, THE COMING OF THE JUDGE:

Jesus Christ has been committed all judgment. So at His appointed time, He comes within his chosen, His firstfruits to do only one thing …

Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

The Lord brings a sword and fire to carry out judgment.

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Mal 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap:

Mal 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness

Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Judgment by Christ with his glittering sword and consuming fire begins in His elect, now!

 1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come [the age is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

How is Christ’s judgments accomplished in us?

1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

1Co 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, [WHY?] that we should not be condemned with the world.

1Co 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man’s judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.

1Co 4:4 For I know of nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by this; but He who judges me is the Lord.

You and I have been sleeping before judgment comes upon us.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

When the judgment of the Lord does come, we are awakened from our sleep in “hell”, place of disobedience, by being given a good chastening, a reprimand, a reprove, a rebuking, an affliction – just about anything in the hand of the Lord to wake us up out of this deep sleep of death. Chastening is a major part of this righteous Judgment of the Lord, but our flesh does not like this at all. To qualify as sons and daughters of God, chastening and scourging are a necessity that we may be partakers of all that is in God through the appointed Judge, Christ Jesus.

Heb 12:5-8 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, [unto the end!] God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, [all, me] then are ye bastards, and not sons. [But not all men are being chastened, judged of the Lord in this age.]

Being exercised with chastening of the Lord is what produces the fruit of righteousness in us. It produces this fruit because we must first know what is being judged within us, what defilements are being scourged, burnt by fire and destroyed by the sword.

Mar 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

Mar 7:22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

Mar 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Once judgment begins, we therefore are chastened and we begin to live godlier lives in this age, not just in the future sometime, but now TODAY.

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Tit 2:12 teaching [G3811, paideuō: chastening] us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; [Greek in this present age]

It is PUNISHMENT to the flesh, an age-lasting punishment because our flesh is being destroyed by the sword and burnt with the Fire that is God Himself throughout the time/age we are being judged.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: [Greek aonios, age-lasting punishment] but the righteous into life eternal.

“Into everlasting punishment” is into the Fire that burns throughout all the ages.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart From me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, [Greek aionios, age-lasting fire] prepared for the devil and his angels:

Who is and what is that Fire that will judge and chasten us throughout the ages?

Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

This is the age-lasting punishment to our flesh and ungodly ways …

The outcome of Christ’s judgment within us:

Psa 98:9 Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall he judge the world, and the people with equity.

Mal 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap:

Mal 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.

The Lord has an end goal in His judgments of our ungodly ways. He has been commissioned by the Father to bring us to Him, all ONE in Him, to the realm of life and righteousness. This is the age-lasting purpose of Christ, and it is through these judgments that we are being saved from this ungodly world within our hearts, and be redeemed from darkness and death that is our flesh. It is through age-lasting Judgment, the chastening fire of God, that we are being saved from sin that dwells within our flesh Also the water of His Word is washing us to be a chaste virgin without spot or wrinkle.

Rom 7:18  For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19  For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20  Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21  I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Eph 5:26  That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Eph 5:27  That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

The outcome of all judgments of all time:

Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

We are learning to discern between spiritual good and evil. It is through this age-lasting judgment we ourselves, are being delivered and is being delivered from our great enemy sin, that dwells within us, that we can live fully in the Spirit, as the prince of this world with all its false doctrines and deceptive ways of living Godly lives is and will be cast out of our hearts as the Judge, Jesus Christ, is coming and increasing in us. Once evil spirits such as hypocrisy are being cast out of us day by day, and our old man is perishing in the process, those few that are being overcome of the Holy Spirit of God are being ordained as judges of the second group of men, of those that are currently still being reserved in the darkness of “hell” where we once were dwelling and dwells from time to time. We do not judge without but within ourselves and within the Body of Christ and in the ages to come we will judge the masses that are in deep sleep now.

1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. [that Old Man of sin within us all].

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

There is an age to come during which all those that are not being judged at this time will be judged by Christ through his Body, the elect of all ages, so that righteousness will rule everyone.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The Reward of being judged now:

Apart from reigning and ruling with Christ, we receive a new family, those who do the will of God, the true sons of God. It is such a wonderful thing for brothers to dwell together in unity. We dwell in UNITY because we all have the same mind of Christ (Psa 133:1).

Luk 18:29 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God’s sake,

Luk 18:30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.

What is our reward in this life for losing our old life?

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Christ is a strong man to protect us.

Isa 32:18 And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;

Luk 11:21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:

The new world of righteousness and Truth to come is now here in down payment earnest form in our hearts if Christ the Judge is being revealed in us. Knowing that there is an age to come, and if we are judged to be faithful, we shall reign and be judges with Christ and it should be a great inspiration for all walking this road.

Conclusion:

The outcome of all God’s judgments through the Lord Jesus Christ is for us to come to learn righteousness and in doing so we bring honor to the Son and to the Father. It is not just the firstfruits that will be bestowed this honor of knowing and doing righteousness, but all men in due time.

But it is through this judgment that God will make a way even to all our lost ones, uncalled or still walking after the flesh, in the age to come through us. God will bring everyone home, to Himself!

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

All will be brought home through age-lasting Judgment by the Fire of God’s Word, which is the means He has devised to fetch His banished, His dead sons, those poor with no goods and spiritual substance, the Lord’s prisoners in the flesh.

 Ezr 7:26 And whosoever will not do the law of thy God, and the law of the king, let judgment be executed speedily upon him, whether it be unto death, or to banishment, or to confiscation of goods, or to imprisonment.

Our King, Jesus Christ, is not slack nor does He has any fault in Him. He will bring us all unto Himself, not willing that any should perish, but all should be created new through His chastening fire of age-lasting judgment which we live now!

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

As God’s elect are given mercy through God’s judgments, in due time when judgment is committed to us, we will be returning the favor so to speak, and do likewise unto our neighbors and have mercy in judgment, bringing others into the righteousness and mind of the Father. Mercy in judgment makes the heart glad over merciless judgment. Age-lasting Judgment by God’s consuming Fire however produces righteousness that triumphs over merciless judgment. For this cause, the apostle James admonishes us to:

Jas 2:12 (NKJV) So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.

Jas 2:13 For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy.

Suffering and Judgment in this age:

We, as Christ did, learn obedience by the things which we are suffering. Suffering with Christ is indicative of judgment being on the House of God in US. We learn by experience of both suffering and judgment from Christ who went through it first in the same flesh we have. Out flesh suffers the same as Christ’s flesh but in down payment form.

Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Heb 5:8 and 9 tells us that we learn obedience through suffering, and when we suffer we learn obedience, our faith being tested as gold tried in the fire. It is the Father THROUGH Christ doing these things IN US.

1Pe 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.

1Pe 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

We should not be suffering as evil doers – murderers, thieves or busybodies in other men’s matters, but we need to be suffering as Christians. That judgment on us as “Christ likes,” which is what Christian means (Christ- like), results in obedience.

Obedience is something that comes from suffering. It is a direct spiritual result. How can that be? We read it earlier. It is obeying Christ, being obedient to what Christ would have us do.

 (KJV) Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

(BBE) But solid food is for men of full growth, even for those whose senses are trained by use to see what is good and what is evil.

(GNB) Solid food, on the other hand, is for adults, who through practice are able to distinguish between good and evil.

(LITV) But solid food is for those full grown, having exercised the faculties through habit, for distinction of both good and bad.

It is through the very act of SIN, the very act of committing SIN that we learn to be obedient. We learn what is right from wrong because through the sins we commit we learn what NOT to do any longer; thus, we learn obedience because we are judged with a big spanking from the Father. As parents, do we not discipline our children for doing what’s wrong? Do our children not learn what is wrong from doing it and being JUDGED of it? In essence, the Lord takes away our full bottle of milk in His own timing and starts to give us solid spiritual food.

Heb 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

The words here translated as ‘chastening’ should say ‘teaches’ or ‘teaching’, and when we are loved by our Father we are shown the error of our ways, we are shown judgment which Lord willing is NOW on our house, the House of God. Christ was made sin and that flesh that Christ was made into had to be judged and done away with.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him [ to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Suffering and Judgment = Acknowledgment and Obedience:

We suffer because we are being judged, and this all builds up to us ultimately acknowledging our sovereign Father as our Head and saying, “Nevertheless, Thy will be done” as is what Christ prayed to God the Father when His flesh did not want to be judged. After all, when we are disciplining our physical children it simply results in our children acknowledging that what we told them they need to be doing and that they must do otherwise it will result in certain actions on our part if they do not obey and do as we say. Ultimately, we do it or should be doing it because we LOVE them, and how much more do we believe that our Father loves us when we are going through the sufferings He has prepared for us? That is exactly what we are told why we are being taught obedience through the things we suffer:

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected [ us], and we gave [ them] reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Heb 12:10 For they verily for a few days chastened [ us] after their own pleasure; but he for [ our] profit, that [ we] might be partakers of his holiness.

Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

If Christ Himself had to endure judgment on His flesh, how much more do we need to endure judgment on our flesh which is sin in and of itself but also how much more will we have to endure judgment because of the very sins we are committing. We are by nature children of wrath, and that is why we go past the milk doctrines of Christ and move on towards maturity. The more sin we commit, the more there is to be judged.

When sin no longer has dominion over us, then it is not something that we need to concentrate on. Indeed, it is VERY important to consider and repent of immediately, but it is NOT our master anymore. Our old masters demand our full attention “or else”, but when we have those masters no longer, we give attention to our new master, our new Head, Jesus Christ.

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Christ came to do the Will of His Father and fulfilled that Will by “learning obedience by the things He suffered”. We, too, must be willing servants to only do His will and not our own. We are being made ready to pick up our cross and follow Christ to death and that on a daily basis. God wants His whole sacrifice, His true tithe paid in full daily.

We have seen in the Word that as children we will be living on the milk of the Word of God as we start off on our spiritual walk with the Lord. However, we are moving past those things which we all have been taught week after week in the orthodox Christian churches that we all have come from and is mentioned in Hebrews chapter 6, specifically the milk doctrine of “eternal judgment”, which is really “age lasting damnation and or condemnation”, one of the six milk doctrines, a period of disobedience and spiritual death.

True Judgment, age abiding judgment, is a process continuing for the rest of our earthly lives if He is working with us now, and resulting in us learning obedience because of the things we suffer from that judgment. We have periods of eternal judgement i.e. “age lasting damnation” even in our Day of Judgment in other words periods of disobedience because the Lord burns out our sins little by little and not everything at once. We are always being judged in these clay vessels, we never arrive in this life.

If we endure these teachings, we are considered sons. Take comfort in knowing that we all have to endure these same judgments at the appointed time of our Father and His judgments are just. So “Mystery Babylon, the mother of Harlots”, is being judged within us daily! This is Good News!

Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. (judgment)

(ASV) Rev 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, Woe, woe, the great city, wherein all that had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

(ASV) Rev 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye saints, and ye apostles, and ye prophets; for God hath judged your judgment on her.

(ASV) Rev 18:21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.

Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous [ are] thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true [ are] thy ways, thou King of saints.

“Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee” is a witness that the key to harmony is only possible with the true witness of Christ’s life within us.

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

FAQS

Differences in the Gospel Accounts?

Dear Pete:  I have a stranger question/concern. The gospels are all different from each other…..but we are told the gospel of John was written so that we may believe. The first 2 gospels Mark and Matthew say his last words were “why have you forsaken me”.  Luke says the last words were “into your hands i command my spirit” and John says “it is finished”.  This makes me wonder which one is true if any of them are.

John’s gospel also speaks of taking the name of the lord in vain and Jesus said that he shall not be held guiltless who takes the name of the lord in vain. I have done this, I  have taken Jesus’s name in vain.  What are your thoughts on this?  

Thanks C_____________

Dear C______, 

Thanks for the questions.  I hope my answer will make you aware of one of the keys to the kingdom of God.  That is coming to know and apply the principle that it is the SUM of the Scriptures that is the truth not just SOME of them.  May seem like a play on words but this is absolutely essential to know the truth.

Psa 119:160  (ASV) The sum of thy word is truth; And every one of thy righteous ordinances endureth for ever.

Jesus Christ is the truth.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus Christ is the Word .

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

But that Word is not divisible, there are no divisions within Christ as all  In Christ have the same mind.

1Co 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

To find the truth, one must take it all of His Word to find the truth otherwise we have another jesus.

That is exactly why Peter said this.

2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture at all is becoming its own explanation

Yet that is what we do being carnal and not taking the sum.  This is why we have thousands of denominations in the Babylonian churches.  Making bread is making doctrine and that is what we do in our yet carnal deluded state before we come to the real faith.  This is also how we justify ourselves and think we wear the garments only Christ can give us.

Isa 4:1  And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

The Scriptures cannot be broken, they are ONE with one another.

Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

One cannot take some of God’s word to the exclusion of others.  We are warned not to add nor to subtract from the Word and this is speaking of the WHOLE BIBLE.   There are serious consequences for us not applying these commandments.

Rev 22:18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

What are the plagues written in this book? They are the diseases of Egypt which are the lies and false doctrines we all first believe until we are given to know the truth by the gift of faith and the Lord opening our eyes and ears.  We have to be able to hear the call to come out of her, the harlot church and all the false doctrines we learn as carnal men in a wicked world waxing worse and worse.  Coming out of her is far greater than leaving the organized church system, it requires us to truly be separated from this world.

Rev 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

So when in Spiritual Babylon still subject to the lies of the carnal mind and false church, we add to the word of God mixing carnal thoughts with the words of Scripture.  We take away when we deny certain words or passages do not apply to us.  The carnal delusion is those bad things only apply to those evil people over there yet we need to look in a mirror and come to see that we truly are beasts (Ecc 3:18) and nothing good dwells in us (Rom 7:24) and that we are the abomination of desolsation (Mat 24:15).

Rev 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

If we take away from the Scriptures we take away our part in the book of life for the time being.  All will be saved in the end but you do need to come to understand what it means to live by EVERY WORD.  The Bible is not a history lesson, every story is a living story and one you and me will live out.

Mat 4:4  But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

This truth is so important we have it multiple times.

Luk 4:4  And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

Deu 8:3  And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

Jesus Christ is HIS WORD.  We will live by every word in due time, all men will and this is how we will eat of His Body.  He is the bread of life, this is the bread we must be eating daily to have AIONIOUS (eternal) life.   All those words in the Prophets and the Book of Revelation are His Word and we will live them out, we will eat them in due time.  That is how we come to possessing eternal life. Here is the definition of eternal life we should never lose sight of.  It is to KNOW Him and we only know Him by going through and living through judgment.

Joh 17:3  And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Living by every word is good news for the new man, as Christ is formed in us and bad news for the old man.  Hence we are told these two witnesses to the truth.

Eze 2:8 But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give thee.
Eze 2:9 And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein;
Eze 2:10 And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe. (for the old man)

And here is the same message in the New Testament.  Eating the book is living the words and taking them to heart.  It is sweet to the new man but bitter to the old.

Rev 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

Living by every word,  is what Paul meant when he writes to us these words.

1Co 3:21  Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

1Co 3:22  Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;

This is the ONE event that comes alike to all men. It only awaits the times the Lord has already determined.

Ecc 9:2  All things come alike to all: there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath.

That one event is living by every word.  So you are King Saul, you are David, you are Jezebel, you are the Simon the sorcerer, you are Saul of Tarsus etc.  The bible is about God’s Elect, the Israel of God.  It is only written to them and about them and only they will understand in this life.  The rest will not understand and that is all the design of the Lord.

Rom 11:7  What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Rom 11:8  (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

When the Lord truly comes into our life for the baptism with fire, not the other jesus we first know, then all that we thought we knew is shown to be lies.  Jesus comes for judgment when He appears, but you need to understand that is what saves us, that is how we are saved, we must go thru it for the old man to be destroyed and Christ to be raised in us.

Exo 6:6  Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:

Exo 6:7  And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians.

When Christ comes, we realize we are blind and all we thought we knew was a lie, false doctrines like eternal hell and free will and the trinity are quickly burned up in the fire.

Joh 9:39  And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

But the plan is always to redeem His people (all men in the end) WITH JUDGMENT.

Isa 1:27  Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

We all think we see when we don’t.  Before Christ comes, we are sure we see, have experienced outward signs to prove it in most cases, but we know another jesus.  The real Lord is causing all things, even evil, even your very sins and is not going to burn people in eternal hell forever.  It is laughable and those that believe such nonsense have to not see the Scriptures or they are adding to and taking away from them as I showed earlier.  Here is a short list off the top of my head of Scriptures that make Babylonians dumbstruck.

Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Most have never even seen this verse.  But if you show them they still won’t believe it and will want to blame evil on Satan and wicked men.  It takes a gift to believe the SUM/ALL the Scriptures and few have it (Mat 22:14).

Isa 63:17  O LORD, why hast thou (GOD) made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

One can pair this verse with scores of others (Amo 3:6, Jer 10:23, Pro 19:21, Joh 15:5 etc etc) that make it perfectly clear the Lord causes all things including our bad things but they cannot believe it.  Wanting to be self righteous and save itself, the flesh and carnal mind will deny Jesus Christ at every turn.

Pro 16:4  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Another one of the all things verses that the carnal mind that denies the Lord want to limit or claim He allows things.  He allows nothing, He is working all things for the counsel of His will (Eph 2:11).

Psa 78:49  He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them. 

I love this verse because it clearly shows the Lord is the one sending evil spirits, they do nothing outside of His will and He created them for His purposes just as Colossians 1 says.  The fact the Lord is ending them to Israel, His own people, His Elect is another wake up call to how deep and wide the lies are in Babylon.

The last verse I show here is also a good one. King Saul did not choose of his own free will to try to murder David.  It was the Lord working ALL THINGS.  How did the Lord do it?  The Lord sent an evil spirit to cause Saul to do it.  Here is the proof and there are many others witnesses, many more than the 2 or 3 necessary to establish a truth.

1Sa 19:9  And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.

Nobody has not blasphemed the Lord’s name.  Doing things in His name refers not to how we pronounce His name, it is whether we are faithful to the true doctrines and obey His word.  Much better to obey (do things in His name) than to sacrifice to Him falsely.  We all take His name in vain but it is because of that and HIS jealousy that He comes and saves us.  This is how the Lord sanctifies His name, IN US.  He comes to bring salvation and clean up His temple, which temple we are.

Look at this promise of salvation and the new covenant.  It is all THE LORDS WORK, there is no you in any of it.

Eze 36:22  Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

We are saved, delivered of our sins for His name sake, not for anything we do or did not do.  All men have sinned, all have profaned His name among the heathen yet He saves us anyway in the appointed times.

Eze 36:23  And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

And here we see the mystery the carnal mind cannot see.  Salvation is of the Lord, HE DOES IT.  It is I WILL, there is no you required.  We are mere clay in His hands.  Let’s read on and see what else is said about how this happens and who is doing the work.

Eze 36:24  For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Eze 36:25  Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

Eze 36:26  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Eze 36:27  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

The result of the Lord’s work in us (Phil 2:13, Isa 64:8) is salvation.  The promise continues.

Eze 36:28  And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Eze 36:29  I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.

The Lord cleans us up and He brings forth the crops and the fruit, the righteousness and no longer has us in darkness, the famine of the word is over.

Eze 36:30  And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

Eze 36:31  Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

Eze 36:32  Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Eze 36:33  Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.

Eze 36:34  And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.

Eze 36:35  And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.

Eze 36:36  Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.

Eze 36:37  Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.

But I hope you are beginning to see the depth of the lies we all first believe.  We must have all that darkness washed out by the fire of the truth and replaced and that takes time. It starts by being given the ability to see that all men are to be saved.  That is the MILK one must grow on and if you don’t see that, then you will remain in darkness and be a victim as the Lord says here.

Mat 6:23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

So getting back to your initial question of the gospel differences.  I need to make it perfectly clear that all those variations of what Christ said are true.  The SUM is the truth and we need to search out the sum because that is where the treasure lies if we are one of the Lord’s priest and kings.

Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Let me explain this is greater detail and show you an example.  For example, the whole of the Bible goes on to give us great detail of what Genesis 1 tell us.

Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Gen 1:3  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

This is not just speaking of the outward physical earth, it is speaking to and about God’s Elect.  We are the earth, heaven is our heart and mind,  the kingdom of God is WITHIN you.

Luk 17:20  And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Luk 17:21  Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The rest of the Bible tells us the details of how the Lord does this.  Our entire life, our entire walk is ordained before there were any days.

Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Here is a new testament witness to the same.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

We just need to live them out and the end of the matter is the light being called out of the darkness as we are remade into he image of the Son. But that is a process and takes us living through all the events, every word the Lord has spoken.

Isaiah and Jeremiah and the rest of the prophets were not speaking to the physical earth or the blue sky above.

Jer 22:29  O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD.

Isa 1:2  Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.

So light being called out of darkness is the whole process of the Lord remaking us.  A day comes when He says let there be light IN US and then there is light and that light begins the process of remaking us into the son of God via the process of JUDGMENT.  All things get remade, believe it

Rev 21:5  And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

So with regards to what Jesus is recorded as saying.  These are words you and me will speak also.  We will first cry out to the Lord when all this affliction comes upon us and ask “why have you forsaken me”.  But we know the answer as the SUM of Scripture tells us why.

Isa 54:7  For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

So Jesus said elsewhere I will never leave you or forsake you.

Heb 13:5  Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 

So which is true?  They both are true, the SUM is true.  We will be forsaken, our old man will be forsaken for a little while as the Lord brings judgment to us to destroy our carnal mind and lustful ways in remaking all things.  But the new man will not be forsaken as this is the Lord’s way in bringing salvation.  How do we enter the kingdom of God that is WITHIN us?  We don’t have to speculate.

 

Act 14:22  Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Isa 48:10  Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

 Jesus says it is finished in another gospel.  These gospels do not tell us everything that happened or every single event but they are what the Lord has ordained be recorded and written down for our comfort and edification. The last verse in John tells us this.

 Joh 21:25  And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

 So we too, when Christ is formed in us will one day know when we have been delivered from the bondage of our carnal life and flesh (i.e. salvation) and we too will know we have finished our work, we have run our race to the end.  Paul said as much and we will to at the end of our physical life (if we are God’s Elect and judged in this life).

2Ti 4:6  For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

2Ti 4:7  I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:

2Ti 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Contrast this truth with the one that says nobody has arrived and we need to continually press onward and upward for the high calling of God.

Php 3:12  Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

Php 3:13  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

Php 3:14  I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

So all these scriptures that on the surface seem contradictory are true.  But the truth is discerned by taking ALL or the SUM of them.

“Into your hands I commend my Spirit” are words you too will live by as every man will.  We will enter into the rest that remains for the people of God when our old man is dead, when we cease from our own works and know in the deepest part of our heart and mind that everything we do and have done, good or bad, evil or obedience, is all the work of the Lord in us. That is the true Sabbath coming to know this truth and obeying that truth.

Heb 4:9  There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Heb 4:10  For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Act 17:28  For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Hope this is helpful.  One of the keys to the kingdom is understanding and being able to apply the SUM is the truth.  Another is to know there are two sides to the sword, light and darkness.  Every word is both a positive meaning and a negative meaning.  Knowing that every story of the Bible is about the old man and the new man (the two witnesses) is a monumental piece of wisdom.  There is a 12 part study on iswasandwillbe about the keys to the kingdom.  Those keys are key to understanding His Word and of course it does not contradict the truth that the Lord must still prepare our heart and CAUSE us to hear His words in order to be given the understanding.

Psa 10:17 LORD, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:

Pro 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Mat 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Hope this helps and gives you some meat to chew on.  I will pray for the Lord to show you and quicken the truth to your spirit.

Please read the links provided earlier especially the ones in the ESSENTIAL READING tab on www.iswasandwillbe.com.  Here is that link

http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/essential-reading/

Your brother in Christ,  PETE

 

Biblical Truth

The Book of Obadiah – Part 1

Obadiah Part 1 – Dec 17, 2015 (click to view, download or print PDF)

Oba 1:1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.

Oba 1:2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

Oba 1:3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock,whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

Oba 1:4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Oba 1:5  If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes?

Oba 1:6  How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!

 

Obadiah’s vision is an important part of the sum of God’s Word. This little book is in fact the Words of Jesus Christ and if we followed Babylonian traditions, they would be highlighted in red. The Lord speaks through Obadiah and all His prophets which are the very Elect chosen by God in each age. So there really is no such thing as a “minor prophet”, these are the Words of the Lord.

Hos 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

 

2Pe 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2Pe 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Savior:

1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

This book of Obadiah tells the story of all of us. This is our life and our walk being described here, the positive and the negative, the flesh and the spirit, our disobedience and our eventual obedience.

Mat 4:4  But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

God’s people, the Christ of Christ are a kind of firstfruits and to whom and about the Scriptures are written (Jas 1:18, Rev 17:14, etc).

Gen 1:1 In the FIRSTFRUITS (beginning) God created the heaven and the earth.

First comes Adam, the natural man of the flesh and then secondly comes the 2nd Adam, the Lord from heaven. It’s is all the work of the Lord as He is the Alpha and the Omega and all in between.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Let’s look deeper into verse 1.

Oba 1:1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.

Obadiah heard a rumour (H8052) which begins the prophecy. He was given ears to hear and eyes to see as is also given to God’s Elect who are the Lord’s prophets. It is interesting that the word for rumour is most often translated as rumour or report but is also the word translated DOCTRINE in this key verse from Isaiah 28:

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? (H8052) them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

So Obadiah heard doctrine. He was made/caused to believe “the REPORT” of the Lord. He was given ears to hear and eyes to see and to understand the Words of Christ and thus began this prophecy and sharing of what the Lord was saying.  Likewise, when we are given our ‘ears to hear’, we too are sent forth among the heathen to arise and go into battle.

Isa 53:1 Who hath believed our report? (H8052) and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

Mat 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Job 33:16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,

The vision (revelation) was concerning EDOM, which is a symbol of the first man Adam and the pulls of the flesh and the beast within that must be overcome.  So this prophecy is about what happens to EDOM within us.   Salvation is accomplished now by us being given dominion over the old man.

Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Gen 36:1 Now these are the generations of Esau, who is Edom.

The battle that Christ must wage begins in us when He arises to fight this battle against the flesh.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Being remade into a new creation, the process of salvation requires the new man in us, Christ in us, to rise up and go fight the pulls of the flesh and carnal mindedness. We all start in a place of disobedience and at the appointed time, we are called to arise and go fight EDOM and that includes our own flesh. Salvation comes as we are given dominion over EDOM and the flesh (Esau) serves the new man (Jacob).

Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

David as a type of Christ reveals that we will take captive the pulls of the flesh and the flesh will serve us and not the other way around.

2Sa 8:14 And he put garrisons in Edom; throughout all Edom put he garrisons, and all they of Edom became David’s servants. And the LORD preserved David whithersoever he went.

The last key point on verse 1 is the reference to ambassadors.  God’s Elect are Christ’s ambassadors in this world and it is thru us that His Word is spoken and the greater spiritual works of the Lord are accomplished.

2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Jer 5:14 Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

I found it very instructive to the inward application of this battle and ambassadorship by looking at the Hebrew word H6735.  Almost half the time it is used, it is translated as pangs, sorrow or pain.

 H6735

tsı̂yr

Total KJV Occurrences: 13

ambassador, 3

Pro_13:17, Jer_49:14, Oba_1:1

pangs, 3

Isa_13:8, Isa_21:3 (2)

ambassadors, 2

Jos_9:3-4 (2), Isa_18:2

hinges, 1

Pro_26:14

messenger, 1

Pro_25:13

messengers, 1

Isa_57:9

pains, 1

1Sa_4:19

sorrows, 1

Dan_10:16

The word Ambassador is from the Hebrew word ‘tsoor” (H6696) which is most often translated as adversary or some form of the word besiege.

 H6696

tsûr

tsoor

A primitive root; to cramp, that is, confine (in many applications, literally and figuratively, formative or hostile): – adversary, assault, beset, besiege, bind (up), cast, distress, fashion, fortify, inclose, lay siege, put up in bags.

Total KJV Occurrences: 36

besieged, 14

2Sa_11:1, 2Sa_20:15, 1Ki_16:17, 1Ki_20:1, 2Ki_6:24-25 (2), 2Ki_17:5 (2), 2Ki_18:9, 1Ch_20:1, Jer_32:2, Jer_37:5, Dan_1:1 (2)

besiege, 8

Deu_20:12, Deu_20:19, 1Sa_23:8, 2Ki_24:11, 2Ch_6:28, Isa_21:2, Jer_21:4, Jer_21:9

siege, 3

1Ki_15:27, Eze_4:3 (2)

distress, 2

Deu_2:9, Deu_2:19

adversaries, 1

Exo_23:22

assault, 1

Est_8:11

bags, 1

2Ki_12:10

beset, 1

Psa_139:5

cast, 1

1Ki_7:15

distressed, 1

2Ch_28:20

enclose, 1

Son_8:9

fortify, 1

Jdg_9:31

put, 1

2Ki_12:10

Here is one example of this same word translated ambassador is used to speak of birth pangs.

Isa 13:8  And they shall be afraid: pangs (H6735) and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.

This is a powerful confirmation that being an ambassador for Christ is making war against the heathen first and foremost by laying siege to the nations of the heathens within us.  This is what brings about the pangs of childbirth and the sorrow of the old man and why this word used as ‘ambassador’ in Obadiah is also rightfully used as pangs, sorrow, pain, etc.  Here is what besieging the heathen nations means in New Testament terms.

Mat 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Mat 10:35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against  her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Mat 10:36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

Living and abiding in CHRIST is how these words of an ambassador (fire) are spoken and do their work in the appointed times.  Ambassadors do not get entangled in the affairs of the nation to which they are sent.  We truly need to be separated, being in the world but not of the world.

2Ti 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

Php 3:20  For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ

Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

This ambassadorship will bring us great scorn among the heathen within and without, who cannot hear Christ’s Words at first and who will bring persecution to Christ.

This conflict will rage in our own heavens as the Word of God that is this fire begins to prick our hearts and tear down the kingdom of the beast sitting in God’s temple.  It continues until the old man is completely destroyed and the land made utterly desolate.

Isa 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

Isa 6:9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

Isa 6:10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Isa 6:11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

The battle against EDOM is spiritual as we wrestle not against flesh but against spirits, lies and false doctrines that defile our heavens.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Verse 2 reminds us how precious few are given to know and experience these things in this age.

Oba 1:2 Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

Many are called and few are chosen to be God’s Elect in this age. The Israel of God was purposefully made small and surrounded by much bigger nations. To top it off, the Lord has put enmity between us and everyone else in this world that has not the mind of Christ.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Deu 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

There is nothing attractive about Christ and this is true for our Lord but also for us, His Christ.

Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

And this is the Lord’s MO and why He used the despised to do His work.

1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

It is worth noting here that this vision of Obadiah is very similar to other Scriptures and particularly these verses from Jeremiah 49.

Jer 49:14 I have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent unto the heathen, saying, Gather ye together, and come against her, and rise up to the battle.

Jer 49:15 For, lo, I will make thee small among the heathen, and despised among men.

Jer 49:16 Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill: though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the LORD.

Jer 49:17 Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof.

 

The parable seems to impart the same message of God’s Elect being called out and separated and given to understand true doctrine.  Then that very word puffs us up and then in turn is used

to show us our own innate wickedness which brings us low and ushers in salvation.  But that is not a ten second sinner’s prayer, it is a painful process of judgment, suffering and affliction that we must endure to enter into the Kingdom of God.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Rev 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

 Verses 3 and 4 show the pattern of what we all do with knowledge when we are first given our ears to ear and eyes to see.

Oba 1:3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

Oba 1:4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

This prophecy like all Scripture is first and foremost to be applied inwardly and what God is doing and showing us in His kingdom which kingdom is within us (Luke 17:21).  We won’t be exalted and used of the Lord until we are first humbled but first comes the budding of our pride.

Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Pro 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

This is exactly what we do when we are still in ‘Mystery Babylon’, the harlot of harlots, even though we have been long gone from the orthodox churches.  We are exalted and in need of nothing.

Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Jer 49:4 Wherefore gloriest thou in the valleys, thy flowing valley, O backsliding daughter? That  trusted in her treasures, saying, Who shall come unto me?

Isaiah 14 comes quickly to mind here when reading Oba 1:3-4.  Those words are written to Israel and include a proverb about the King of Babylon who is you and me before we are humbled.

 Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

The mercy the Lord will bring to us in due time are the trials.  But in the meantime we run off puffed up on knowledge and the pride that is in our carnal DNA.

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

 

The clefts of the rock are places where we dwell and this is the refuge that is found on the mountain  tops.  We sit there in our self-righteousness until the Lord brings His righteous judgments against  the proud tree we all first become.  Reminds me of what happened to another king of Babylon.

Dan 4:13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;

Dan 4:14 He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:

Being exalted as an eagle here is a negative application of that word. Eagles sit high up on the cliffs and rule the skies and are ravenous eaters consuming lots of meat.  The negative spiritual application of this is we get puffed up with knowledge before we are proven with trials and the result is pride will blossom.

Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains

But we cannot hide when our day of the Lord comes, the Word will search us out.

Eze 7:9 And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will recompense thee according to thy ways and thine abominations that are in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the LORD that smiteth.

Eze 7:10  Behold the day, behold, it is come: the morning is gone forth; the rod hath blossomed, pride hath budded.

We are first found by the Lord and brought into the marvelous Truth and born on the wings of Christ.  A great example of this is Deut 32.

Deu 32:9 For the LORD’S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

Deu 32:10 He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.

Deu 32:11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings:

Deu 32:12 So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.

But here is what we all will do before we are tried with the fire. We get fat!

Deu 32:13 He made him ride on the high places of the earth, that he might eat the increase of the fields; and he made him to suck honey out of the rock, and oil out of the flinty rock;

Deu 32:14 Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan, and goats, with the fat of kidneys of wheat; and thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape.

Deu 32:15 But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick,  thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.

Deu 32:16 They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.

Deu 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.

Deu 32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Sitting back reading Scriptures, gaining knowledge not coming to the Body and having fervent fellowship, is a trade mark of a self-exalted ‘eagle’.  It brings these Scriptures to mind.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me (MY BODY), that ye might have life.

The key takeaway of this lesson is the often repeated lesson in Scripture is that we must do the Word not just hear it.  This can only be done in the Body, serving Christ.

Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Faith along with knowledge does not save us. This faith must lead to works and that is how we are being justified in due time.

Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed

Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

This is a necessary and painful process for us to be so humbled.  The day of the Lord will not come to our heavens until this is lived out.  These words are also is, was and will be!

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Here is an Old Testament witness to the same event of us as God’s Elect handling the Word of God deceitfully and then being destroyed by the brightness of the Lord’s coming within.  We won’t be able to hid in the cleft of the rock forever.

Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Also See Ezekiel 16:8-17

We all must be humbled in our day of judgment. The pride of man will be cut down after we get puffed up with knowledge. We hide ourselves and deceive ourselves in the clefts of the rocks on the mountains of flesh (EDOM and ESAU). When thinking we have arrived and are no longer in need of repentance.  Those high places must be brought low by the Lord.

Eze 6:3 And say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places.

Mic 3:12  Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.

And here is a new testament witness to the judgment when we get puffed up on knowledge but do not practice pure and undefiled religion before God.

 Luk 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

Until we come to see ourselves for what we truly are and recognize we are sinning machines (without Christ), we ARE remaining self-exalted in our puffed up knowledge. We should always have the attitude Paul expressed.

1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

We must be diligent to constantly examine ourselves and our walk to see if we are in the faith.

 

Oba 1:5 If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes?

The Lord wants it all.  We have been redeemed with a price and when He comes to us He is not going to leave anything unturned.  It is all going to be plundered as we are made anew.

1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

The thief comes in the night, a time of spiritual darkness when we are not aware of our marred abominable condition even after having knowledge.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

The question about thieves leaving something behind and the ‘grapegatherers’ leaving some grapes on the vine are rhetorical questions and the answer is clearly NO. They will take it all as Esau will be laid bare.

When Christ comes to clean His house (His Temple, which temple we are) He leaves no stone unturned.

Luk 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,

Luk 21:6  As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Isa 24:3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.

Num 31:11 And they (Israel) took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.

Being puffed up, the reward we receive shall be paid back double upon our own head.

Jer 51:53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD.

Jer 51:54 A sound of a cry cometh from Babylon, and great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans:

Jer 51:55 Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:

‘The Christ’ is the thief and the robbers that spoil the land and this is, was and will be bringing deliverance to those on Mt. Esau as we will see at the end of the book.

The words of fire spoken accomplish their purposes in our day of the Lord and that day of judgment is now for God’s Elect.

Jer 51:20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

Jer 51:21 And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;

Jer 51:22 With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;

Jer 51:23 I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; and with thee will I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers.

It is Christ (i.e. His Body) speaking the Words of fire that break the rock and is the method by which the Lord replaces our heart of stone with a heart of flesh.

Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?

Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Oba 1:6 How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!

The flesh will be thoroughly searched out and all things that oppose Christ will be laid bare and nothing shall be spared.  Jeremiah 49 gives us multiple witnesses and here are just three that

speak to the completeness of God’s Word, the four winds of heaven completing their work within us all in our day of the Lord.

Jer 49:10  But I have made Esau bare, I have uncovered his secret places, and he shall not be able to hide himself: his seed is spoiled, and his brethren, and his neighbours, and he is not.

Jer 49:13  For I have sworn by myself, saith the LORD, that Bozrah (a sheepfold) shall become a desolation, a reproach, a waste, and a curse; and all the cities thereof shall be perpetual wastes.

God is calling light out of the darkness that He created first. First comes the darkness then comes the light and that all in the appointed times and due seasons.

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Peter tells us who we are as God’s Elect, the redeemed people of God who have been called out of darkness into the marvelous ‘Light’ that is Christ.

1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

It is the light of Christ that will bring the knowledge of God thru the Body and which SANCTIFIES US in the appointed time.

2Co 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

The battle against Edom (Esau) is relentless. Nothing will be missed.  All the hidden things shall be found by the light of the WORD.

Luk 8:17 (NKJV) For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.

The day of the Lord is when these things happen to us.  That day is in this age if we are God’s Elect and is a day no man knows but the Father. The light of ‘The Christ’ will bring the judgment

to us first. We are the first to experience death of our old man and carnal lusts thru this process. Our idols will become a booty or spoil to ‘the Christ’ who will come in the spiritual darkness of night.

Zep 1:12 And it shall come to pass at that time, that I will search Jerusalem with candles, and do good, neither will he do evil.

Zep 1:13 Therefore their goods shall become a booty, and their houses a desolation: they shall also build houses, but not inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, but not drink the wine thereof.

Here we see our role as the lights bringing judgment thru the words of fire we speak.

 Oba 1:18  And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.

This bringing judgment comes thru the Words of Christ which we speak and hear. He is the Light of this world that searches these things out.  Yet His Christ is also the light of the world and the very instruments the Lord uses to bring judgment to the inward and outward nations.

Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

We should be doing this in down payment form now, speaking the words that shall judge us in the ‘last days’.

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

When the time is right the righteous judgment of God will shine the light of the WORD onto the hidden things of darkness in each of our hearts.

1Co 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

If we are God’s Elect, we are doing this today within the Body, this is our period of “on the job Training” preparing us for the greater roles we shall have if we are so blessed to be in that blessed and first Holy Resurrection.  The Lord is preparing us to be the very instruments thru which He rules during the Millennium.   Also our function as the lake of fire bringing salvation to all men thru the process of judgment. There is no greater honor a man could strive to attain to than to be in the blessed and first holy resurrection and be used this way of the Lord.

We see in this study that God’s Elect are far from infallible (Pro 24:16). By being humbled and given the mercy of fiery trials, we are being prepared of God to bring mercy to others.

Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Thank you for joining us for this study.  I hope it was edifying in some ways.  See you next week for Part 2 Lord willing!

 

Doctrine, Elect, GRACE

Feeding On The Mountain of the Lord

feed my sheepJoh 21:15  … He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

Eze 34:15 I will feed my flock …

Doctrine is what we eat spiritually speaking.  Doctrine’s importance cannot be overemphasized in our walk!  It is gigantic in its importance and anyone claiming otherwise has a false view and does not understand the ways of God and vastly overestimates how few, “few chosen” really means.

Mat 7:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.

These words of Christ do not speak to who goes to heaven or who goes to hell as Babylon will teach, they speak to how precious few will be God’s Elect in this age and will come to understand and teach true doctrine.  It is of paramount importance to know and follow and teach sound doctrine because this is what will save ourselves and those who hear us.

1Ti 4:16  Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

Who, how and when shall we be taught true doctrine and come to know the truth about the Lord?  This post will attempt to answer this question.  Doctrine is extremely important as without it NOBODY can be saved.  I hope some will be given the ability to hear this message and begin to understand the profound truths of the Scriptures and be able to separate the lies we all learn first in Babylon.

Heb 4:12  For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

The word of God is a two edged sword.  Nearly all that call themselves Christians have heard this statement yet extremely few actually understand the profound mystery of this sword, what being two edged really means and the way the Lord works with His real church, which is the Elect.  The sword has many functions spiritually speaking.  A very key one is that it is what brings judgement to us in the appointed time, so it is a very good thing in that regard.

Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment (speak the truth to those given ears to hear) to the Gentiles.

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints (Christ, His Body) shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

I have updated this now even longer post to give a second witness to most points, bringing forth treasures out of the old and the new just as the the Elect are commanded.

Mat 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.

Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

So when we are given to hear the word, then the sword of God brings judgment upon us.  Here is what happens, the old man is destroyed.

Eze 11:10Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Mat_10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

The sword of the Lord is also used to deceive us.  You see darkness and the light are the same to Him and He is the word of God.

Psa 139:12  Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

The sword of the Lord guards the way to the tree of life.

Gen 3:24  So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep (guard)  the way of the tree of life (Christ)

1Co 3:13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.

Every way means both flesh and spirit, light and darkness, truth and apostasy.  The sword is used by God to perform His ordained works in our lives in the appointed times. ALL THINGS ARE OF GOD.

Php 2:13  For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Of course it is all Christ, both the sword and the tree of life.  Our carnal mind devoid of the Spirit given to the precious few cannot understand these mysteries given only to His Elect.

1Co 2:9  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Exo_4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Mat 13:11  He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

God’s Elect are His messengers (angels) and the very same cherubim’s who speak His word.  To most those words will remain utter darkness as they cannot understand as it has not been given to them to understand.

Joh 12:39  Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,

Joh 12:40  He (THE LORD) hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Yet to those who have ears to hear and eyes to see they are the light unto this dark world.  Absolutely amazing when you are given to see the sovereign hand of the Lord in both blinding the multitudes and restoring sight to the blind.

Pro 20:12 The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.

the Lord even makes the unhearing ears and the unseeing eyes …

Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Whether it is light or darkness, the word of God, which is Christ is both darkness and light.  It just depends on which side of the cloud one is viewing it from.  If outside the veil of flesh, the truth of Christ and His bread, His true doctrine  is utter darkness.  This is things like the salvation of all, God’s absolute sovereignty, his non trinity relationship between Christ and God etc.  These things are the true light that save us as we grow in the knowledge of the Lord. But those not yet dragged to Christ and thru the veil that is His flesh, these truths will be utter darkness.  Such is the example we are given between those in the world and the true Israel of God.

Exo 14:20 And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night.

Until we are dragged thru this veil into His flesh, the Body, we won’t be able to see the light of the world.

Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, HIS FLESH;

And guess who is the flesh of Jesus Christ????

Eph 5:30  For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

The body of Christ is this veil, it is the cloud one must be dragged to in order for one to see and eat the bread of life and drink the living waters.  The cloud of the Lord’s witnesses today and in each generation since Jesus have been this darkness or light as the case may be.  The words we speak and the espousing of the true doctrines of Christ will quickly get us labelled as having devils just as our Lord was falsely accussed.  It is just the necessary reproach and enmity God has ordained be between those given the gift and those not given.

Few Chosen To Be Given The Truth

One either has ears to hear and eyes to see or they do not, and that all by the sovereign hand of the Lord.  Nothing infuriates our pride and self-righteous nature than to be told there are a few who have something we do not.

Mat 22:14  For many are called, but few are chosen.

Mat 13:17  For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

They killed Christ for speaking the truth and they will do the same for His chosen few who speak the same truth. That is the way of the Lord whose ways are not our ways nor are His thoughts like ours.  The Lord is not in the fairness business.   This is an oft repeated truism of God’s Elect being given the truth and the rest of the world, even the professing church is everywhere in the Scriptures.

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

Notice who does it, it is God who purposefully puts them to sleep and blinds them and makes them deaf so they cannot hear His words.  No free will involved!

Rom 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

The doctrines they eat, their spiritual table is a snare and a trap.  This is our spiritual prison, our beliefs, the very doctrines we hold to as the truth that keep us bound in our apostasy until the Lord sets us free in our day of judgment.  The real Christ is a stumbling block we all will first reject as we believe lies like free will and eternal torment.

Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

As Christ said, when what we think is light is actually darkness, how great is that darkness.

Mat 6:23   If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

It is strong delusion and that seems like an understatement.  This is the Lord’s plan and why His entire word is a parable hidden in types and shadows such that carnal minds and ears cannot discern the truth.

Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

People hear and see physically, sure they do, but very few are chosen to be given understanding.

Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

Drawn From The Breasts 

We see this mystery of the Lord purposefully blinding the multitudes and giving sight only to His chosen Elect throughout the Scriptures.  Isaiah speaks to the word being used first as a snare, spoken in a stammering tongue we will not understand (without ears to hear).  This is where we all must first go and spend our appointed 70 years in spirit in prison in Babylon.

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

Note, HE MAKES us to understand doctrine, that is what it says above.  This is the same thing as Him Making us to lie down in His green pastures just as Psalm 23 says, we don’t choose.

Psa 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters

This is how we are all dragged to the real Christ in due time.  He makes us to understand it, He gives it to us.

Isa 28:10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

But the truth is the SUM OF THY WORD, it is not a line here or a line there cobbled together to create one’s own doctrine.  That is what Babylon has done and is likened to seven woman who make their own bread as Isaiah 4:1 declares.  No prophecy of Scripture is of its own private explanation, the truth is only found in the sum of the word.  Such a simple concept yet so few can grasp it.

Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

We all must first get deceived and drink strong drink before we will ever know the truth (Deut 29:6).  At first the Lord speaks to us being yet carnal in stammering lips and a language we do not not understand and neither did any of His disciples.  How plain can it be as we are shown in Luke.

Luk 18:34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

When we can’t hear the words of Christ in Spirit, we continue in our own dead works to serve the Lord and cannot yet enter into the true rest that remains for the people of God.

Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

And this is how the Lord uses His word to first cause us to be deceived and be taken captive in Babylon where we will spend our appointed and symbolic 70 years thinking we serve the Lord but not having a clue as to His true doctrines and what the gospel is really all about.  We all fall backwards into perdition when first coming to Christ.

Isa 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Those that see will first be blind and know they are blind when their eyes are opened.  That is what the parables speak of about blindness but few can receive it other than an outward history lesson.  We won’t see until we are first blind as bats yet we will claim we do see.  This is where we will be then and yet we all fall victim and live by this experience.

Joh 9:39  And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

Joh 9:40  And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?

Joh 9:41  Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

The Lord puts His words in the mouth of His Elect and it is those very words that are also a fire and a light and a sword among other things.  That sword is the judgment of our old man which must be done away with for salvation to come.   This is indeed one of the great mysteries those without ears to hear cannot grasp in any fullness.  The instrument for bringing judgment is Christ, being His body and the word spoken from the mouth of the Lord.

Jer 5:14  Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

Mat 5:14  Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

The Last Days

We must be given ears to hear and the faith to believe before our day of judgment begins.  The last days for each of us do not commence until that time.  But when we do hear, the new man in us will receive the words spoken by Christ and those words will bring the sword upon our old man and the process of salvation will quickly come to pass.

Joh 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

Joh 12:48  He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

God is working with His Elect now in preparing them to fulfill His purposes IN CHRIST which is that we shall judge the world in righteousness.  The way we are prepared to become the judges of the world is to first be judged ourselves and it is a marvelous thing to know this and have it combined with faith.

1Pe 4:17  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Heb 4:2  For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

 Losing Your Life is Being Killed by the Sword

Luk 17:33  Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

To be born again, the first man Adam in us must die for the second man Adam (Christ in Us) to come forward.  The old man that knows Jesus in the flesh must decrease so Christ in us can be increased.

Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

The parable of the walk to Emmaus shows us this mystery.  It is not until we walk with “Christ” and eat bread with Him (His Body), sharing truths and edifying one another thru fellowship that we will see Him in the flesh (the way Babylon knows Him) no longer.  When we do this,  we eat the true bread of life and over time progress on to the meat of the word.

Luk 24:30  And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

Luk 24:31  And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

God’s Elect will be given over time the mind of Christ.  This comes only as we lose our life and spiritually speaking are decapitated and lose the head of our old man.  I know this is repulsive to our carnal minds but is an appropriate application of Romans 1:20 which tells us it is the outward physical things that are spiritual types and shadows of how it works in the spirit.

Having The Mind of Christ

Being beheaded spiritually by the sword that is the word of God that destroys the old man and false prophet within us all is a prerequisite for being given the mind of Christ and being in the first resurrection where we will  rule and reign on this physical earth.

Rev 20:4  And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Those who have been beheaded and truly born again in the spirit will no longer think like the world thinks, we will truly be different and separated.  Within the body of Christ there will be no divisions, we will think alike having the mind of Christ.

1Co 2:16  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Php 2:5  Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

There are not 40,000 denominations in real Christianity there is indeed only ONE TRUE DENOMINATION and that is the church that Christ build. Man and his efforts of serving God are all vanity.

Psa 127:1  Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

Those infected with Babylon doctrines have spiritual leprosy which comes about from its false belief on confusing tolerance of doctrinal differences with loving one another.  The carnal mind will be easily snared by this lie and see tolerating other’s false doctrines is somehow likened to being loving.  It is no such thing, that just perpetuates strong delusion and adds more plagues to our apostasy.

Rev 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues (false doctrines)

Oneness with the Lord means there is no variation, there is no turning, there is no allowance for false doctrines.  For a deeper look at the importance of sound doctrine please see this post Take Heed Of False Doctrines.

Rom_15:6  That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Co_13:11  Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Php_1:27  Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

That is even what the vision of the whirling wheels is all about, speaking and telling us in type and shadow what God’s Elect do as the Body of Christ in this world.

Eze 1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

Eze 1:5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

Eze 1:6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

Eze 1:7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf’s foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

Eze 1:8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

Eze 1:9 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

The doctrines of Christ are the foundations on which the BODY is built.  They are likened to HIS BONES and that is why we are told not one of His bones was broken.  Not one of His doctrines will be corrupted IN CHRIST, it will remain pure and undefiled.  The words of Scripture that are spirit foretell of this great mystery.

Psa 34:20 He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.

Joh 19:36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.

Inheriting the Mountain

Joh 6:44  No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me drag him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Christ is the mountain on which the Elect will dwell.

Mat 24:15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Mat 24:16  Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Our inheritance is being dragged to this mountain which is Christ which is His Elect also know by very many names including The Church, The Body of Christ, the Bride, The Christ, the saints, the brethren, the election, His witnesses, the tree of life, etc. etc.  Those so chosen will be dragged out of this world and onto the mountain that is Christ.  There we shall be fed the true living bread and learn to eat strong meat which all related to the true doctrines of Jesus Christ rather than the lies of Babylon.

Eze 34:12As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

The Lord has scattered His little flock but then regathers them from all nations of the world.  We are brought into our own land, our inheritance and there we feed on the mountain and drink the living waters which also flow from us and give drink to others (feed thy sheep)

Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

The Lord puts elders and teachers into His body to feed the flock of God and it is indeed a bountiful feast to those prepared to hear it and take it to heart.

Eze 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.

And this is how we grow, mature and cease from our own works in due time.  This is the true sabbath rest that remains for the people of God.  The Lord is indeed our shepherd and He is His Body.

Eze 34:15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, (and cease from their own carnal works) saith the Lord GOD.

On this mountain, God’s Elect shall dwell in the consuming fire with a sword always abiding upon our spiritual house which house is the temple of God.

Isa_65:9  And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.

Jdg_1:8  Now the children of Judah had fought against Jerusalem, and had taken it, and smitten it with the edge of the sword, and set the city on fire.

This is how and where we all shall lose our life to gain it.  This is not eternal torment, this is the way salvation comes to us all in our times appointed!!!!!

Isa_66:16  For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

Salvation Comes On The Mountain

Exo 19:16  And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

This is what working out our own salvation with fear and trembling takes place, on the mountain that is Christ dwelling in His Body.

Praise the Lord, all men shall be saved eventually.  All men will have their inward cities and kingdoms that are in rebellion against the doctrines of Christ burn with fire and cut off by the sword of the Lord.

Jesus told us that the kingdom of God is within us and comes not with visible observation.  Yet that is where salvation comes, within, it is the destruction of the old man and emergence of the new man, the Lord from heaven that is in fact salvation.  This battle and war is all within us and takes place in our hearts and minds.

Mat 10:22  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mat 10:23  But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

All those stories and examples in the OT were there to show us this truth and were written only for God’s Elect who would come many years later (1 Peter 1:10-12, 1 Cor 10:11, etc).  Maybe now the log of eternal torment will begin sliding away from your spiritual eyes?  Here is some good news for the man within.

Deu_13:15  Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

Deu_13:16And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

1Sa_30:3So David and his men came to the city, and, behold, it was burned with fire; and their wives, and their sons, and their daughters, were taken captives.

Which is an older version of this same truth:

1Co 3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Nobody is escaping this process, it only awaits the times appointed for each.

Jer_25:29  For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts.

Eternal damnation and hell fire is a lie, an invention of carnal men and apostate Christianity.  If only the Lord will pull that log out of their eyes then they could begin as new born babes to drink the MILK of the gospel, the salvation of all men in due time.

1Pe 2:2  As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

His Two Witnesses

What those believers is such blasphemous doctrine as eternal hell fire do not perceive is that they are yet carnal and that all the Scriptures are about what takes place within us.  The two edged swords that is Christ is the two edges sword that is His Christ.  As His witnesses we are the two witnesses that first speak falsely on His behalf and then are killed and risen again and only then are we seated in the heavens with Christ.

Rev 11:3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Rev 11:5  And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Rev 11:6  These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

At first we fall backwards and are deceived by fleshly carnal doctrines and our witness for Christ will fail.  But we are Christ, He is the first and the last and a resurrection in down payment form is coming in this age if one is God’s Elect.

Rev 11:7  And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

But when Christ’s comes to us and our day to believe comes, we arise from the dead and then our judgment and the earthquakes of all the carnal nations and lust within us begins in earnest.  The second half of our witness is after we are resurrected from the dead and have the spirit of God living within us.  Our inward and outward enemies will all bow in due time.

Rev 11:11  And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Rev 11:12  And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Rev 11:13  And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Rev 11:14  The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

And it is here that we enter into Christ and know Him and His Father being of the family of God and seated with Him in heaven which is our hearts and minds.  Now the Lord will rule us with a rod of iron and the Elect will rejoice as the angels in heaven.

Rev 11:15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 11:16  And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

Rev 11:17  Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

Rev 11:18  And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Rev 11:19  And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

As we saw above, it is on the mountain that is Christ that all of these lightening, voices and thunderings, earthquakes and great hail take place.  It is a marvelous thing.

Mat 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Heb 12:26  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

Heb 12:27  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Heb 12:28  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Heb 12:29  For our God is a consuming fire.

Being saved will cost us everything if one really knows what salvation means and can be moved beyond the strong delusion of eternal torment.  This sword is the tool the Lord uses to make war in our heavens and that is exactly what must take place BEFORE salvation comes.   These are not a history lesson or an outward prophecy, they are words you, me and all men shall live by in the appointed times.

Rev 12:7  And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Rev 12:8  And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

We know this sword has come to our house when we are shown are wickedness and learn that we are the abomination that is causing desolation defiling the temple of God.  This is the sign that our day of the Lord has arrived and Christ has come to make war in our heavens and destroy the beast and false prophet within us all.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (our day of judgment and being dragged to the truth) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

We must fall away first and then be shown who and what we truly are:  Beast and chief of sinners etc.

2Th 2:4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

We must be shown we are the false prophet, the antichrist, a self righteous beast speaking like a dragon

2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

We will never receive this until our day appointed arrives.  It is all in the Lord’s hands.

2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

But that day will come and the wicked wretched man that we all are in the flesh will be revealed to us and then the Lord will begin to consume and destroy that wicked beast within us all with the sword and fire that is His word.

2Th 2:8  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

And the lies we all beleived and were held in deception, including what we honestly believed were true miracles and deliverances will be shown for what they were, an event to keep us bound in darkness during our appointed time in Babylon.

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

In type and shadow, this is what happened to David, who is a type of Christ and a type and shadow of all of God’s Elect.  A prophet of the Lord will come to us and speak the word that will shine light on our darkness. David like all of us looked past his own sins and so easily saw the sin in others and was offended by those sins.  But his hypocrisy as our own will one day be shown to us in stunning clarity.  David wanted the life of the man that took the ewe from the man who had but one, and that man was David and is you and me  and all men who are brute self righteous beasts.

2Sa 12:7  And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;

2Sa 12:8  And I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

2Sa 12:9  Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

We all despise the Lord while claiming to serve Him.  We live by every word, even these.

2Sa 12:10  Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

The sword divides.  It is what separates us from our old way of life and the new way of life.  It is the means by which the old man is crucified and the beast and false prophet that represents all of us is finally destroyed.   But the sword is not abiding on anyone that thinks they are righteous and have not been shown clearly who they are in the flesh and what really they are made of.

Ecc 3:18  I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

Such ones are the ones Christ does not come for in this age.  They need no repentance, don’t need a physician and are pros at pointing out other people’s sins but can’t see their own.  Until the logs of false doctrines are pulled from their eyes they have no business trying to pull specks out of others.  Yet all of us will be guilty of doing it as we live by every word.  Those that do not know or believe they are truly a beast will have no need for repentance.

Luk 15:7  I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Which is why Christ said, the end does not come unless and until you see it.

Mat 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

One can’t see until they are healed of their blindness and that only by the Lord’s mercy.  One will not understand until then and will be ever learning and never able to come to knowledge of the truth.

1Ti 1:15  This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Isa 64:6  But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

When you begin to see these things, then you begin to be humbled and that is what must occur for salvation to come.  Blessed is the poor in spirit for they shall see God.  But if you are given mercy and are shown these truths in the spirit, then salvation has come unto you and the Lord will make a relatively quick work to destroy that beast and kill that old man within you and eliminate the false witness and false prophet we all are at first.  Here is a wonderful event that will usher in salvation for all men when it comes.

Rev 19:20  And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

This indeed is what true grace is, it is what chastens us and is how the sons of God are scourged by a loving Father.

Eph 2:8  For by (chastening) grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Heb 12:6  For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

It is this sword that our father uses.  The rod of Aaron in type and shadow brings this judgment upon our sinful ways of the flesh.  It is what causes us to obey the Lord in due time.

Eze 36:27  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Contrary to the false love believed by most and taught in the Babylon churches, the Lord’s ways calls for a heavy dose of discipline to teach us righteousness.

Pro 13:24  He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Isa 26:9  With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

Those that have been shown mercy will know the trials are the blessing and what is needed for us to be remade into the image of Christ.  This is a process that requires us to learn patience.  I am a blessed man and have been shown such mercy by others and have come thru the door and it is my purpose to show others this same mercy.  I pray you hear if you were led to read this very long post.

Joh 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door (The Christ) is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

This is the works of God and the greater works Jesus said His Christ would be doing.

May these words be an encouragement and spiritual food to a precious lamb who the Lord is dragging to Himself.  Sincere questions or comments are welcome.  Please feel free to email me at (note a new email address)

peterjwilson56@gmail.com

Joh 21:16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

In love,

Your brother in Christ,  Pete

For a related post on doctrines showing how many of the OT stories are all about doctrine also see this link:

http://truthinscripture.com/2014/03/19/tolerance-of-false-doctrines/