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Who Is Responsible For Evil?

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NOTE:  This post was updated and shortened along with an audio recording of the study in 2018.  It can be accessed by Clicking Here.  

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Jesus is the Lord of heaven and the earth, both the outward and the inward, He is Lord of all.  Jesus Christ whose words shall never pass away told us that without Him we can do nothing.  This statement was true for the disciples that heard it that day and it is equally true for the disciples that hear these words today.  I hope your heavens and your earth (not the things in outer space) are given to hear the truth of what I speak in this post.  It is an essential truth to be set free from the lies and bondage of Babylon.

Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me

Is the Lord just a terrible parent or is our rebellion part of His plan all along?  No, the Lord is not a bad parent, He is God Almighty and is working all things for the counsel of His will.  The Lord spoke through Isaiah and told us HE brought up children who rebelled against Him.  This rebellion is, was and will be God’s plan for ALL MEN.  That is not talking about some people that lived 3,000 years ago, that is talking about you and me, or ALL MEN of all time.  All men will first rebel against God until the Lord has mercy and brings us to Him in truth and in spirit.

Here we see the Lord’s plan from before the world was formed to be set.  He changes not.  It is the Lord who turns man into destruction, into sin and then in the appointed times calls us back home to Himself.

Psa 90:1  A Prayer of Moses the man of God. Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.

Psa 90:2  Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

Psa 90:3  Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.

The Lord both turns us away into wicked things and also is the one who grants and causes us to turn back or repent.  He is doing it all.

Php 2:13  For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

I hope to make you seriously challenge some of the doctrines you believe, they are influencing your spiritual vision whether you know it or not.  You best take heed the truth and the doctrines you cling to.

Consider the words of Christ at the top….without Jesus Christ we can do nothing.  We can’t even rebel against God, without Christ in us doing it.  What are the boundaries of nothing?  Did Jesus just mean good things?  What is the sum of God’s word regarding the origins of evil?  The truth is we can’t even do evil outside of Jesus Christ.  We can’t even sin without the Lord our God causing it and bringing about the event in our lives that manifest evil in our own spiritual houses.

I really hope you will read this carefully and consider what the Scriptures actually say and set aside what you believe if you think the Lord is not responsible for evil.  The truth will set you free, the lies of Babylon will keep you from moving on to maturity in Christ.  You must test and prove all things, take nothing for granted about the doctrines of Christ.  Many wolves in sheep’s clothing have been sent out by the Lord to deceive the multitudes that call themselves by His name.  Spirits are in fact doctrines.

1Jn 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Removing A Giant Beam From Our Eye

How big is your God? We all in our carnal minds underestimate God and exalt the role of man in the affairs of this world. The Lord is orchestrating them all whether they be good or evil and the amazing thing so few can grasp is He declared them all from the beginning and is in need of nothing from His pieces of clay.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

One of the biggest Babylonian obstacles to get beyond that greatly hinders our ability to know the truth of God’s word is giving God the glory for ALL THINGS. This includes evil.  This idea is so contrary to our carnal mind and all the traditions of what we learn growing up, it repulses our flesh and makes some angry to even suggest it; yet it is what the Scriptures declare. Unless one is given to see the sovereignty of God in all things; they will be ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. My hope is a few of you may come to see this essential truth and a door to your inner heavens will be opened.

Please don’t twist the fact that God is causing evil to then claim I am saying God is evil, He is absolutely not. God is good and is in fact much “gooder” than the false God most worship that will burn most of his creation in a literal eternal hell forever without end. It is almost laughable for me to say that anymore seeing how monstrous a lie and how totally unscriputural that doctrine is, yet BILLIONS believe it to this day.

God is amazingly good but He absolutely works and causes evil to bring good about in the end.  The story of Joseph being sold into Egypt by his brothers is a powerful lesson in how God works evil for good.  In fact his story is what was used to bring me to understand that God is indeed sovereign over all things, including evil things.  At the end the story Joseph tells his brothers it was not really them that did the evil but it was God who did it for good in the end.

Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

And this is a macro truth repeated everywhere in Scripture once you are give ears to hear and eyes to see.  Do you really believe this verse?

Rom 8:28 And we know that all things (even evil things) work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

The Lord works evil for good. He is the Lord of all and He really does hold the entire world in His hands.  This is a powerful Scripture if you really consider what is being said.

Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Black & White – Believe these Scriptures 

Before we get further in, let’s just consider a few of the straightforward Scriptures that tell us the truth about who is causing and sending forth evil.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

It does not get any clearer than this and when you show people this Scripture most of them are dumbstruck.  But there are more, many more.

Amo 3:6  Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

I know how hard it is to believe this in the natural mind. But when a horrible disaster happens in a city,  we have to accept it was the Lord that caused it.  That is what His word declares.  We will be hated for merely suggesting this truth to most people.  So few believe the Scriptures. We must be given the ability to understand them and also to believe them. Few there be shall find the way but they tell the truth about good and evil.  The Lord says He makes wicked people on purpose.

Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

 The Lord says He speaks and sends forth good or evil.  He orchestrates the events of our lives.

Lam 3:37  Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?

Lam 3:38  Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?

To deny this basic truth is to deny the Lord and create another jesus.  We have just scratched the surface and the sum of thy word, “the Scriptures” are the truth and tell us what God is doing by causing evil.

Psa 119:160 The sum of Your word is truth

The Purpose of Evil 

We experience evil to learn about evil as indeed to become like God’s we must know both good and evil.  Nobody can learn anything without experiencing it and learning the contrast with good.  Such is the purpose of life and what the mature people of God will be given to accomplish in this life in clay vessels.  Knowing good and evil is of paramount importance for God’s Elect.

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Ecc 1:13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens:it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.

When we don’t know good and evil clearly we will mix them up and confound the truths of God.  This is what Babylon doctrines do to us all.

Isa 5:20  Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Let’s ask ourselves a couple of very important question if we doubt the black and white truth shown above.

Who purposefully planted the tree of the knowledge of good and evil right in front of Adam and Eve?

Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Who added the crooked serpent to tempt Adam and Eve in the weakness of their carnal mind and sinful flesh?

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

Job 26:13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.

Did Satan rebel against God and escape His grasps? NO, that is false doctrine of Babylon, the Lord created Satan (evil) as a smith to come create fires in our lives and to destroy the pride of man in due season.

Isa 54:16Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

The answer to ALL these questions is that GOD DID IT.   GOD DID IT ON PURPOSE, HE PUTS EVIL INTO OUR MIDST, IT IS PART OF HIS PLAN. Learning good and evil and being tempted by the devil is God’s plan for man. Satan is not escaped the hands of the Lord and is out running around working against the purposes of God. That is carnal logic, utter nonsense and a false doctrine of Babylon who have not any truth.

God Sends Evil Spirits Among His People

God causes evil to come upon His people when they are judged. It is part of His chastening grace and how He scourges every son He receives.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

We saw from Lamentations 3 that it is from the mouth of the most high God that commands evil to go forth. Satan could not touch JOB until the Lord said go get him and His purposes were ultimately for the good of JOB and all involved.    Here is this important story told us from JOB.

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

Job 1:9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

Job 1:10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

Job 1:11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

So we see in JOB that Satan and his demons are nothing more than servants of the Lord, they are in fact the left hand of God.  HE uses them to bring about good and to accomplish ALL HIS GOOD PLEASURE in our lives.   Just to prove that all the evil JOB went thru was for good, let’s check in at the end of the book and see what the Lord says.  It sure looks like JOB was blessed even more than the beginning.  God worked evil for good again.

Job 42:11  Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.

Job 42:12  So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.

Notice who brought the evil.  It was the Lord even though we are told it was Satan earlier.  It is because Satan and all evil forces only go where the Lord commands them to go and do only what they are commanded to do.  The Lord really is the Lord!!!!

I have seen people look on in disbelief when you show the clear Scriptures on this subject. They don’t want to talk about, their carnal mind cannot process these plain facts.  Here is a verse most have never seen and hate in defense of the false doctrines that God does not create or have anything to do with evil.

 Psa 78:49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.

Psalm 78 is not talking about the bad people, it is talking about ISREAL, God’s own people! The Lord sends evil spirits to His own people. The Lord is doing it, He is working all things for good in the end, even sending evil. This is the truth and you are blessed to remove the plank that represents the lie that God is not responsible and is not the author of evil, maybe you will begin to see the truth much more clearly. Here are a couple of more, but there are many others in the sum of God’s word.

1Sa 19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.

1Ki 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

Jdg 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:

God sends evil spirits, He even sends strong delusion, yes the Lord does all these things. It is our carnal minds and the lies of Babylon we all are raised under that deceive us and foster UNBELIEF in the Scriptures.  Who was behind the crucifixion of our Lord Jesus Christ?  The most evil act of all time, the murder of our Lord Jesus Christ was orchestrated and worked by GOD.  This evil was done for good in the end, to save many people,  ALL MEN alive.

Act 4:26  The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

Act 4:27  For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

Act 4:28  For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

And the same forces are at work not only against the Lord but also against His Body, His Christ, just as verse 26 tells us above.  Not only does a bird not fall from the sky outside of the will of God, but a demon or the devil does not take one step outside of the will of God either. This is what you must come to see, the absolute sovereignty of God in ALL THINGS.

STOP THINKING OUTWARDLY

Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

We should know that the kingdom of God is within us, in our hearts and minds, which is where heaven is. Some can easily believe that the Lord is responsible for tornado’s and hurricanes, the outward things, but cannot make the connection that the Lord is the Lord of heaven and the earth. This speaks of inward things as well as the outward. The ALL THINGS means ALL THINGS whenever you see it.

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

When you truly understand what being sovereign means and what Jesus meant when He said without me you can do nothing, then you will begin to understand the lie of free will, that God truly is the Potter and we the clay and that man is not even responsible for his own sins.

I know what you are thinking…. WHAT! This guy Pete is a heretic. How shocking a statement can one say you may be thinking. I would have thought that just a few years ago before a light in my heavens was turned on.

But I just declare what the Scriptures say and man having free will to choose good or evil without God causing those choices is the strong delusion. The fact is we cannot even sin without Jesus Christ. He is working it ALL. Let’s just look at some black and white Scriptures again and then we will come back to look at it on deeper level. If you have ears to hear, you are going to learn something.

Isa 63:17 O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

Who causes us to err from His ways?  Is it Satan?  No, ultimately it is the Lord who is working in us to will and to way according to His good pleasure.  That includes causing and sending evil upon us and within us.  We can certainly sin with our tongues can’t we?  Who gives us EVERY WORD we speak?  It is the Lord.

Pro 16:1  The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.

Isa 57:19  I create the fruit of the lips

Exo 4:11  And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

The master Potter who is the LORD is doing it all.  He makes us all wicked for our day of evil.

Pro 16:4  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Free will is another giant lie of Babylon because the Lord is doing it all, directing all our steps. It is the delusion of the carnal mind that wants to give God part credit for the good and blame the evil on Satan.  But here is who is doing it all again.

Pro 16:9  A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.

We read about Israel’s rebellion and doing evil against the Lord, we are reading about OUR rebellion and doing evil against the Lord. These things are all written for our admonition, as God’s Elect upon whom the ends of the age have come ( 1 Cor 10:11). The Scriptures make clear WHO IS DOING IT, WHO CAUSES THE SIN and the EVIL.

Jer 32:23 And they came in, and possessed it; but they obeyed not thy voice, neither walked in thy law; they have done nothing of all that thou commandedst them to do: therefore thou hast caused all this evil to come upon them:

Jer 32:42 For thus saith the LORD; Like as I have brought all this great evil upon this people, so will I bring upon them all the good that I have promised them.

And there you see the contrast again, the Lord brought all this evil upon His own people so He could then bring all the good He promised upon them. DO YOU SEE IT? DO YOU BELIEVE?

Seeking Occasion Against Our Flesh

The Lord draws light out of the darkness. He remakes marred vessels of clay, vessels of dishonor into vessels of honor, but in His timing.  Each of us is this ONE LUMP of clay in the hands of the Potter.

Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

One reason for God causing us to err from His ways and to run after and do evil, is for God to seek an occasion against our flesh. It is by the process of judgment (the marvelous works of the Lord to the children of men) that all men are brought to salvation and the old man, the beast within us all is destroyed. This takes place in the kingdom of God within us all, it takes place in the heavens, that is where this battle of good vs evil is waged.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heaven

The idea of God using evil for good is so foreign to our carnal minds, but that is how the Lord works judgment in our lives, He causes us to stumble so we will learn that we indeed are a wretched man in need of a savior.  When judgment falls upon us, the sword, which is the WORD OF GOD will never depart from our house. God says He will raise up evil WITHIN US, and the reason for this is so God’s wrath will rightly fall upon the old man and destroy the wickedness that all men are by the brightness of His coming in our heavens. The story of Nathan exposing David for the wretched man that he and all men are tells us exactly what we too will experience in our appointed times.

2Sa 12:10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

2Sa 12:11 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

 It was an egregious sin for Israel to inner marry with pagan cultures. Same way today, we are to keep ourselves separate and pure from the world. Yet the Lord in seeking an occasion to bring judgment upon us, sends evil to our own house. The story of Samson tells us this also, where the Lord put it into Samson’s heart to demand his parents get for him a philistine (FLESHLY) wife.

Jdg 14:1 And Samson went down to Timnath, and saw a woman in Timnath of the daughters of the Philistines.

Jdg 14:2 And he came up, and told his father and his mother, and said, I have seen a woman in Timnath of the daughters of the Philistines: now therefore get her for me to wife.

Jdg 14:3 Then his father and his mother said unto him, Is there never a woman among the daughters of thy brethren, or among all my people, that thou goest to take a wife of the uncircumcised Philistines? And Samson said unto his father, Get her for me; for she pleaseth me well.

Jdg 14:4 But his father and his mother knew not that it was of the LORD, that he sought an occasion against the Philistines: for at that time the Philistines had dominion over Israel.

The Lord sought an occasion to bring judgment upon the carnal mindset that corrupts all of us and this happens in the appointed time for all. All of God’s Elect will marry Philistine women in type, that is what Babylon and our fleshly desires represent. But the Lord uses this evil we do and are caused to do, to bring about good, which is to have our old man destroyed and the new man brought forward. That is why judgment and having God’s wrath poured out upon us is said to be…..

Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

Psa 19:10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

The Lord uses evil for good. Evil provokes Him to anger and brings about the righteous judgment of God upon us. That is His grace that chastens and in due season teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts.

2Ch_33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

To know the truth and even begin to grasp the truth about the Lord and His sovereignty over all, you must know He is responsible for everything. Carnal minds will of course apply this outwardly, and that is true. You must first see that the Lord is causing everything in the external world, be it disasters, storms, rain, sunshine, who is elected king or President, there is no boundary to what God is causing.

2Co 5:18  And all things are of God

Yet an even deeper truth is applying God’s sovereignty to the kingdoms and nations within us, within the hearts and minds of His people.   That is where the kingdom of really is and where all the stories of the Bible are really talking about and where the lessons learned need to be applied.

ALL THINGS HAS NO EXCLUSIONS

If one can just latch on to the concept of ALL THINGS and apply the definition of all things to the doctrines we believe and follow, a lot of error would go away and we would begin to see that the Lord is indeed sovereign over EVERYTHING. The Lord made all things and works all things all the time. He is not a Plan B God that responds and reacts to the messes that man makes.

Eph 1:11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

The carnal mind will not believe that every day of our lives has already been written in God’s book. But what sayeth the Scriptures?

Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Which is why we must be given the gift of faith to believe the Scriptures, otherwise the true things of God like His sovereignty are indeed foolishness to the natural mind.  We all think we believe long before we really do.

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

ALL THINGS means exactly what it says and as one grows in the truth faith, your boundaries of all things will continue to expand.  Pay attention to Paul’s description of Christ.  ALL THINGS IS THE MAIN POINT as I have bolded.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Col 1:18  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Col 1:19  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Col 1:20  And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

There is nothing the Lord did not create or cause. There are no exceptions or exclusions. Being Lord of lords leaves nothing out with regards to absolute sovereignty. I continue to be amazed and how these clear scriptures that state the truth can be read and yet the meaning not retained in their mind.

Where is the verse or verses that say God does not create evil and is not working all things?  THEY DO NOT EXIST and if you believe those lies, you are still in Babylon and know not the truth.

WE WERE MADE SIN, WICKED ON PURPOSE

Pro 16:4  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Ecc 7:20  For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

We all think we are pretty good people before the judgment of God falls upon us and the LORD begins to manifest in our own spiritual house, the evil that lives within us.  The Lord has to show us we are wretched men and that nothing good dwells in our flesh.  We have to come to see why God must destroy our carnal mind and will learn to count this destruction as joy once we first see who we truly are in these fleshly vessels.  I hope some understand these words and can count well.

Rom 3:10  As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Rom 3:11  There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Rom 3:12  They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

If you see how God works evil for good and believe all things really means all things, then maybe we will better understand God’s plan to remake all sinful vessels into new vessels by the process of judgment.

Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Christ is not counting on you to do anything. Salvation is truly of the Lord.  Man was made very imperfect, marred in a body of sinful flesh. What God made was indeed “good” for the purposes He made it, but His standards of perfection only come on the third day. Even Jesus was not good in body of flesh.

Mar 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Luk 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.

Your third day is the day of the Lord, it is the day of our judgment. This is when our flesh and carnal mind is destroyed by the fire of hearing His word. If you are so blessed to be God’s Elect, that day is now in this age while we are yet in these vessels of clay.

1Pe 4:17For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

But God made us virtually sinning machines, automatically programmed to do evil, an innate a beast at the core. This was done ON PURPOSE as the Scriptures declare.  I hope you will remove the fall of man from your mind also as that too is a lie of Babylon that is supported by the lie that the Lord does not create or send forth all the evil of this world.

Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Psa 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

This chapter in 1 Corinthians is so powerful when you can understand it. We all are of the first man Adam and the second man Christ, but in our appointed times. Jesus said He was the first and the last meaning He is the first man in us all and the last man in us all, thru HIM are ALL THINGS.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Salvation does not come until we are given to see who we truly are in the flesh. Like Paul we will see ourselves as the chief of sinners.

Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

The salvation “process” does not even begin in earnest until we see ourselves as the abomination of desolation.

Ecc 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. 

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

This does not speak of some bad guy down the street, it is talking about you and me. We have to come to see ourselves in total need of a Savior and incapable of doing it ourselves. This is why the Lord causes us to err from His ways and do evil, He has to show us who we are and that all the sins of Adam thru the prophets, Cain, Saul, it all lives in us. The law of sin and death was put into us all by the Lord .

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Salvation will not come, the process won’t even start unless and until you are given to see this fact. You and me and all men are beast, we are the abomination causing desolation sitting on God’s throne in our hearts exalting ourselves and our delusion of free will as being God. That lie will come crashing down the day the rock that is Christ falls upon you and begins to grind you to powder. Woe unto you, the judgment has come upon you and it is a marvelous thing, a wonderful blessing, a strange act that those yet carnal are not given to know this mystery. The day of the Lord for you will not come to any man until we are shown these things.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

So I am going to end this here and point out that apart from Christ we can do nothing, we can’t do good, we can’t even sin outside of Christ. He is vine and we (all men) the branches. It is those unfruitful works in us (sin) that are IN CHRIST (In me in verse 2) that are purged and thrown into the fire, which means burned up by us hearing the words of eternal life with God given ears to hear.

Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

CONCLUSION

Contrary to Billy Graham’s famous sermon after 911, where he unequivocally said “The Bible says God is not the author of evil”, God most certainly is the author of evil and the Scriptures clearly declare that. Unless and until this deceptive log is pulled from our spiritual eyes, we will have no chance to know the truth and will be wandering in a spiritual wilderness. Either God is sovereign or He is not and He very much is and that includes over ALL THINGS, even EVIL THINGS.

We must be given the gift of faith, the Faith OF Christ to understand the Scriptures and to believe them, which are in direct opposition to what Billy Graham and all of those in Babylon preach.  Faith is indeed a gift and it is not even our own faith, it is of Christ.

Eph 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Getting rid of the lie that God does not create evil will establish momentum of truth that will take out other lies of our Babylonian gospel. Once the legs are cut off, the table we are spiritually eating from will collapse. That is how it worked for me.

If one can come to see the very clear Scriptures that show the Lord is the one creating evil and sending it forth to accomplish HIS purposes, then this pillar will be cut down and Lord willing an entire suite of false doctrines will be purged from our inward heavens. Lies such as eternal torment, the fall of mankind, the fall of Satan, and sin being caused by free will choices will be vaporized and we will see spiritually with much greater clarity.  Young babes in the true knowledge of Christ will be hungry for answers to the inevitable and many questions we all will have.  An obvious question once we realize free will is a lie is this one.

Rom 9:19Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

And the answer is that God is God and thru the Lord is working all things and is showing us His goodness thru the longsuffering and forgiveness we all are given for the evil we are ordained to live out in our own lives, whether that be a little bit of evil or a lot of evil.  God is going to make known His glory by rendering this mercy to us all in the end.

Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Hopefully for a few this post has lodged loose some planks and possible logs in your spiritual eyes.  Ultimately the same Lord that is working all things end even causing you to stumble and commit evil will turn you around and cause you to obey Him and to take seriously His word and to fear it.

Eze 36:27  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jer 32:40  And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

Sincere questions or comments can be emailed to me at peterjwilson56@gmail.com. 

Your brother in Christ,

PETE

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Feeling Unworthy of God’s Choosing

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I received a question from someone God is working with and opening ears to hear the truth.  This man asked a very good question which I repeat here along with my answer to him.  I hope this will edify others as this is a very common question, one I myself asked for a long time as I was slowly dragged into the truth.

QUESTION:  I just do not feel worthy or that I can be God’s Elect.  I am still struggling with some sin and I can’t seem to overcome it.  Why would God choose me to be His witness and representative here on the earth when I have not overcome these sins.

ANSWER:  Thank you for this question.   This is a logical thought we all will ask ourselves as we are dragged to Christ.   Having the breadth and depth of our sinful nature shown to us, is part of the process God has ordained that brings salvation in due time.  I hope I can show some of that to you here in my reply.  Let’s start out by remembering that all flesh is sin and that all of us come into this world in a marred vessel of clay and that vessel will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Mar 10:18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Not even Christ said He was good in a body of sinful flesh.  The fact is there is  no one who is good, no one not even one!!!!

Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Being chosen of God means we will be the first to be judged.  Judgment begins at the House of God, the very Elect and this is bad news for the old man but good news for the new man.  This process of judgment requires that our  sinful nature and totally wretched being as carnal men walking in marred vessels of clay be exposed to us.  God has a unique way of using evil for good and using our sinful nature to draw us close to Him.

Pro 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

The Elect of God will always question their worthiness to be God’s elect.  The very sins that have beset us will cause us to think we are not worthy and this is true, we are not worthy.  Yet being God’s elect has nothing to do with our own righteousness and none of it is based on merit of any kind.  Being God’s Elect is solely based on God’s choosing us before the world was made.  Being God’s Elect is based on the will of God and what He declared from the very beginning.   God is not counting on or depending upon anything from any man.

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

A second major point is to remember that no man is justified by our own works, or by our obedience.  All is of faith and that too is a gift from God that we can do nothing to earn or merit.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Justified By Faith Not Works

And we have clear Scriptures that tell us it is not about us, it is all the work of God in us by this gift of faith.  Yet few really believe.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

The righteous shall walk by faith and not by sight.  The only way anyone is going to be righteous in a sinful body of flesh is by them being implanted the precious gift of faith of Christ.  This is given only to the very Elect that were chosen before the world was formed.

Isa 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

So nobody anywhere is going to be justified by their obedience and outward appearance of holiness. Yet we see multitudes preaching a holiness message that don’t have one iota of truth in them.  They know not even what salvation means much less what faith and grace are and therefore know another jesus and have a different gospel.

We Are Clay In The Potter’s Hands

All of those called by God thru Christ and chosen to be servants and prophet or disciples did not feel worthy.  We could recount numerous stories here that impart of this message but I will show two that reaffirm the thoughts you have shared of feeling unworthy to be God’s Elect are simply words we as His Elect will live by.  Isaiah when brought into the throne room immediately felt unworthy.

Isa 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
Isa 6:6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
Isa 6:7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

But you see, the fire of God’s word, which we hear by faith and believe by faith is what purges us of all sin.  Moses also when called and given his commission was not worthy in his mind.

Exo 4:10  And Moses said unto the LORD, O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.

And the Lord answered telling us that He is working all things as the Potter.  He has made us who we are.

Exo 4:11  And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

And the Scriptures declare that God’s ways are not our ways (ISA 55) and that those He chooses confounds the wisdom of the wise men who walk after the flesh.  God is not going to pick witnesses and servants that conform to the wisdom of this world.  He picked me which is just as dumb to the world’s view and God picking a man like Moses or a wicked man like Saul of Tarsus.  But pick me He did which simply confounds the wisdom of the world and the carnal mind.

1Co 1:27  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1Co 1:28  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

and why is that V______________?  Here is why.

1Co 1:29  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Being chosen of God and being given ears to hear the true gospel is not based on merit.  It is based as you know on God’s choosing, Him having predestinated a chosen few to know the truth in this life in the flesh.

Eph 1:4  According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eph 1:5  Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

God is Working Even the bad things

The battle we all have against sin is a battle that is given to us by God.  He has worked those sins and trials and temptations into our lives.  He is the Potter, we are the clay.  Of course we are not to take the truth of God’s sovereignty and turn it into a license to sin.   But also you must come to understand and to believe that God is working all things in your life, even the bad things, even the wicked things.

Pro 16:4  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Amo 3:6  Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Lam 3:37-38   Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not? Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?

Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So knowing this, I hope God will give you the ability to apply these words inwardly.  The evil in the city is not just the evil out there in the world,  it is the evil in there, in the cities and nations that make up the kingdom of God within you and me.

We don’t harden our own hearts based on our own initiative.  God does!!!  We of ourselves like Christ can do nothing on our own initiative and that includes both good and evil things.  The Potter works us the clay.

Rom 9:15  For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

Rom 9:16  So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Rom 9:17  For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Rom 9:18  Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Yet salvation is a process.  Many are called and only a very few are even given to be judged in this life and to have salvation come to them now while still in these marred vessels of clay.  Salvation comes to us only by the process of judgment against our old man and carnal nature.  It is good news for the new man but affliction and great sorrow to the old man, but it is the way of the Lord.

1Pe 4:17  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Isa 26:9  With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

Rev 15:8  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

There is a time and season for everything in our lives as God teaches us and molds us via HIS process.

Ecc 3:1  To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

Ecc 3:2  A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

Ecc 3:3  A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

Ecc 3:4  A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

Ecc 3:5  A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

Ecc 3:6  A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

Ecc 3:7  A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

Ecc 3:8  A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

These various times and seasons include us being overcome and snared into deep besetting sins.  This is part of God’s way of humbling us and showing us that of ourselves we can do no good thing.   The storms and trials of live are raised up by God and also calmed by God.  He must bring us to our wits end, where we will give up on the flesh to save ourselves and have no place to go but to cry out to Him.

Psa 107:25  For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.

Psa 107:26  They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.

Psa 107:27  They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wits’ end.

Psa 107:28  Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.

Psa 107:29  He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still.

So please do not abuse the truth and sit back and relax and accept your sin.  But know that it is the Lord doing it all.

Isa 63:17  O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

Isa 64:8  But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Salvation is a two step process. Flesh and blood was never intended to enter the kingdom of God.  The old sinful man, God created on purpose will be destroyed in His time and that is how the new man will come forth.

Jer 18:3  Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.

Jer 18:4  And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Being Aware of Our Sin is a BLESSING!!!

The fact that you feel unworthy and are aware of your sin is a very good thing V______.  That is truly a work of grace in your life and you are very blessed.  Consider here who is marked for God.

Eze 9:4  And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Eze 9:5  And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

Eze 9:6  Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Eze 9:7  And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

When we are made aware of our sins and made to feel horrible about them, this too is all the work of God.  He is bringing us to our wits end as we saw in Psalm 107 above.  He must bring us to a place where we will have NO CONFIDENCE in our flesh and will have to be 100% reliant upon God for our salvation.  That is the way it works V___________.  But please do not make the mistake others make that get this truth, and they in turn turn the grace of God into lasciviousness.   We must make every effort and attempt to depart from inequity.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

The old man will be slain by the judgment of God and the new man will be spared and raised up in power.  That is the good news, the process of God bringing salvation to us.  Christ spoke about this often and a key milestone of the process of salvation is the Lord revealing to us that we (the beast, the carnal man) is the abomination that is causing desolation in the temple of God.  God has to first show us this…..WHEN YOU SEE said Christ, oh what a blessing your new man is in for.

Mat 24:15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Mat 24:16  Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

This is the same thing Paul wrote about here.  Salvation does not come until first we fall away from our first love (get ensnared into sin) and then the man of sin (you and me, all men) is revealed to us.

2Th 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (YOU AND ME,  all men are that man of sin)

2Th 2:4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2Th 2:5  Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

The Scriptures tell us that we are both the old man and the new man.  We are raised first in sinful bodies (marred in the hands of the potter) and then if we are so blessed in this life as God’s Elect, then the Lord begins destroying that old sinful man by opening our ears to hear His words.  It is hearing those words that brings judgment and which over time destroys the old man.  Remember it is a process.

1Co 15:42  So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

1Co 15:43  It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1Co 15:46  Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

1Co 15:47  The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1Co 15:48  As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

1Co 15:49  And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1Co 15:50  Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Getting Giants Off the Land

I mentioned to you in our chat that God does not deliver us of our sins all at once.  It is a process.  Getting the giants off the land takes time.  God delivers us little by little as we grow in faith and knowledge of Christ and His grace.

Exo 23:27  I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

Exo 23:28  And I will send hornets before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee.

Exo 23:29  I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.

Exo 23:30  By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.

Again we see this in Deuteronomy:

Deu 7:19  The great temptations which thine eyes saw, and the signs, and the wonders, and the mighty hand, and the stretched out arm, whereby the LORD thy God brought thee out: so shall the LORD thy God do unto all the people of whom thou art afraid.

Deu 7:20  Moreover the LORD thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed.

Deu 7:21  Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible.

Deu 7:22  And the LORD thy God will put out those nations before thee by little and little: thou mayest not consume them at once, lest the beasts of the field increase upon thee.

Deu 7:23  But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed.

All men will be saved by fire in our appointed times.  That fire is the word of God which will work its purposes in our lives.

1Co 3:15  If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Overcoming the law of Sin God put into us

All men will struggle in overcoming the flesh. It can only be done by the power of God.  And it will be done in the times appointed us by God.  Listen to Paul and heed these words.  Twice Paul tells us what is causing us to sin.

Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16  If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that [it is] good.
Rom 7:17  Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Rom 7:18  For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19  For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20  Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21  I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Who put that law of sin and death in us?  God did.  there is only one lawgiver says James.   It is God who has made us subject to the law that causes us to sin when we would do otherwise. The fact that we have no free will is as applicable to our sins as it is to our righteousness. Both are the work of God in and through us.

Yes, we must repent of our sins, but ‘repent’ means ‘to change,’ and we are not repenting of doing things of ourselves. Even our repentance is the work of God in our lives. We simply change from doing the wrong thing to doing the right thing, and both are all of God. The apostle Paul actually separates himself from the law of sin and death, and acknowledges God’s sovereignty in all things. “All things” certainly includes our sins.

Be patient V_______,  Trust in the Lord.  So now you should have a much better understanding of the depth of this verse:

Luk 21:19  In your patience possess ye your souls.

So be sober, and be vigilant, but also be patient. You are being delivered from the sin in your life, but it is taking place on God’s schedule.

Rom 8:20  For the creature (YOU, ME, ALL MEN) was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Rom 8:21  Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

We shall be delivered by the Lord in the appointed times.  BELIEVE this gospel!  Believe in the report of Isaiah and the salvation of all men.

Your brother who is dealing with the same issues in being molded into the image of Christ,

PETE

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What Is Man’s Role In Salvation?

The quick and true answer is NO ROLE.  Man has absolutely NO ROLE in salvation. NONE. NADA, ZIP. There is not one Scripture properly divided that says otherwise. This is the truth.  Earlier this year as I wrote on this blog, I asked a Babylonian minister to send me his definitions of the basic tenants of God.  He sent me to a web page that was titled Man’s Role vs. God’s Role In Salvation.   Unbelievable the heresy on that page but the man had no ears and did not hear my rebuke or correction so I moved on as commanded.  But I had always wanted to write a quick post to lay out the truth and expose the total absolute carnality of the thoughts and logic that man has any role in his salvation.  Men will do things that is for sure, but the power and causation of what we do is always from the Lord.  Putting the sum of thy word together makes clear what is truth.

Jon 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.

If we can simply come to the word of God as a little child and be taught the truth and simply believe what the Scriptures say. Few are given this ability to see and apply simple truths on a macro scale. It really is this simple.

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

2Co 5:18 And all things are of God

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring

Joh_3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

Carnal minds have twisted and perverted the word of God and leavened all the doctrines. What carnal minds cannot see is that everything required of salvation, is something the Lord gives or imposes upon man. We will briefly review this below and even see that the Lord even made covenant with us, we do nothing, it is all HIM and He changes not.

Faith – That is given to man, the few chosen by God for now. No flesh will be boasting it saved itself.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that (the faith) not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The Lord is going to make crystal clear to you via the process of judgment, when that day comes, that you have nothing to do with your salvation or faith.  If any part of you thinks you have a role in it, you don’t yet know the Lord in spirit.  God cannot use anyone that thinks they bring anything to the table.  We will be humbled and made meek and no flesh shall glory in the Lord when we are judged.  All men will learn this the hard way.  We all will live by every word and will be confounded by the wisdom of God and shown the utter folly of carnal logic and thinking we bring anything to the table.

1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise (you and me) ; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty (our prideful beast);

1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

Men thinking they choose God in any way shape or form, even receiving the “free gift” is carnal delusion.  This deception enables  the self righteous beast that all of us are at heart to sit on God’s throne and deceive us into thinking we serve God but we are actually working in opposition to the Lord not knowing we are that man of sin.

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 

Repentance – This is granted, it is GIVEN to those God has chosen, His very Elect, Israel.

Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Act 11:18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.

Of course knowing who is Israel and who are the Gentiles is important to know what is being said here.  There are only two types of people, Jews and Gentiles and even the Gentiles are Jews in waiting; awaiting the appointed time for their judgment thru which all men will be saved and all of God’s creation restored back to Him.

Rom 11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 

Man repents only and  because we are granted and given repentance not because our flesh desires to repent on it’s own.  As we will see our very thoughts are given to us by God but know it is HIS goodness that leads us to repentance.  Our free will has nothing to do with it since free will is strong delusion!

Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

Obedience – Our flesh is incapable of obeying God and He will first prove that to us by bringing judgment upon us to humble us. We obey because HE causes us to obey, it is Christ in us doing it, it is not us. anything else, the belief in free will is strong delusion.  It is this judgment, the scourging that is the chastening that defines what the true grace of God actually is.

Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Psa 23:2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

What the carnal mind cannot understand is that we can do nothing, EVEN SIN, outside of the will of God. Apart from Jesus we do nothing.

Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit (i.e. sinful passions) he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Joh 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Joh 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do NOTHING. (even sin, nothing is nothing)

This all part of the wonderful works of God to the children of men. The Potter is doing it all, molding the clay, causing good and evil, causing obedience and disobedience. Free will has no place in God’s kingdom and is strong carnal delusion.

Isa 63:17 O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

The evil within, in the kingdom of God in our cities within is all of the Lord.

Amo 3:6  Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Isa 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Pro 16:4  The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

The carnal mind and 99.9% of those that call themselves Christians will not receive this and will think it is blasphemy. Yet nowhere does the Bible ever say man is responsible for anything. What it does say is God is working in us to do all that we do.

Php 2:13 For it is God (it is not YOU) which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

HE will work all His good pleasure and it has already been declared.  God is not subject to man’s will.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Giving an account is not being responsible. The fact is, the Potter is responsible and we are just clay in His hands. We can do nothing, not even sin, outside of His will. Blasphemy blasphemy will yell the carnal mind that know not the Scripture. He is the one directing our every step. We be it good or evil are all the works of his hands. People can read these Scriptures 1000 times yet, say God is Sovereign but then claim man has free will. What utter delusion.

Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Jer 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

The fact is, our very thoughts, every one of them, is given to us by God. That is an all powerful God few believe.

Amo 4:13 For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name.

God gives us the very words we speak, all of them.

Pro 16:1 The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.

Isa 57:19 I (the Lord) create the fruit of the lips

Men that think God needs something from them, do not know the Lord. They follow another jesus.

Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

I did not cover every aspect/requirement for salvation as that is not practical and indeed there are many.  A dear brother just put up a great post regarding LOVE and if the Lord coerces us to love.  Hopefully, the truth is obvious now as ALL THINGS certainly includes love.

God Even Makes Covenant For Us

Man does not choose God, God chooses man. Amazing how Babylonian ministers have invented this idea of accepting Jesus into your heart as the way of salvation. Christ had a different truth which was….

Joh 15:16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you,

The stories about Israel are not a history lesson people.  They are examples for how God works with all men in the age of Christ.  In fact those words in the OT were not even written for the people that lived back then, they we written for God’s Elect that would come later (See 1 Peter 1:10-12 if you doubt this).  But know the Lord even brings us into covenant.  We don’t choose Him, He makes us lie down in His green pastures. Where is the YOU in the picture?

Eze 20:33 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

God Almighty does not need to ask our permission to rule over us!  LOL

Eze 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
Eze 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 20:37And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
Eze 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

There is no YOU in the process.  The LORD does it all.  He purges out the sin,  He destroys the rebels that live within His kingdom.  He pleads with us thru fiery judgment.  There are NO YOU WILL’s, it is all I WILL says the Lord.  Those that see that don’t yet see the sovereignty of God and are still very carnal.  Man thinking he saves himself by choosing Christ is nothing more than the self right beast we all are sitting on God’s throne in our hearts!

We see this immutable fact throughout Scripture. Not one person on their own initiative sought out and found the Lord. The Lord came to all of them, Abraham, Noah, Paul, all the disciples were chosen out of the world. They had no choice in the matter, that is contrary to all the Scriptures.

Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Even those that come out of Babylon are chosen of God and dragged out. So says the Scripture.

Ezr 1:5 Then rose up the chief of the fathers of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests, and the Levites, with all them whose spirit God had raised, to go up to build the house of the LORD which is in Jerusalem.

Hag 1:14 So the LORD stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people (THE ELECT); and they came and worked on the house of the LORD of hosts, their God,

There is no room for free will in any of this. It is the Lord’s work. He stirs up our spirits and that is what leads us to Him and to work in building His House. The story is consistent, the truth changes not. Here we have the Israelite s (type for God’s Elect) being stirred up and being MADE WILLING to build the House for God.

Exo 35:21And they came, every one whose heart stirred him up, and every one whom his spirit made willing, and they brought the LORD’S offering to the work of the tabernacle of the congregation, and for all his service, and for the holy garments.

God makes us willing. He gives us every single desire of our heart, be it for good or evil. He is the Potter. The Lord even makes covenant for us as we see in the story of Abram.

Gen 15:17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.

Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

What was Abram’s part? Nothing. The Lord did it all. You can see the same for Noah and it is the same for all of God’s Elect, we were chosen before the world was formed. God did it and in the appointed time, the burning lamp and fiery furnace that represents the judgment of God against our flesh and carnal mind will come and the process of being made new will begin.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

ALL THINGS ARE OF GOD. No man can come to Him unless it is given to them and they are dragged to Christ. Yet despite clear words that speak, this, it is the false gospels that are believed and followed by the billions of Christians. They are living blind, under strong delusion, letting carnal babes rules over them.

Joh 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me drag him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The whomsoever will are the ones God has chosen, the same ones to whom IT IS GIVEN to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God.

Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

I hope your ears and eyes are blessed of the Lord and you understand what I am saying and see it in the word.

Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

It is given to very few as many are called and few are chosen. The few chosen are dragged out of this world to Christ. If you look into it, you will see all those verses that say man has to do X, Y or Z and then you “might” be saved. The word MIGHT was added, it is not there in the Greek. It was added by blind carnal translators who gave us the KJV bible written to support their false gospels and other jesus. The church had fallen away long before the Bible was even finished being written. Yet everyone assumes the falling away is out there in the future, not even considering they were born into it, blind as bats.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

I see many people, my own family reading many Christian books that sound good and look good to the carnal mind. But one can spot these wolves a mile away when you see things in the covers or the titles of the book that speak to man having a role in salvation. You see all these statements saying, you must go all in for Christ, that is all nonsense, it is denying the Lord and exalting man. Here is what Christ says to them.

Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

Run from these deceivers who look oh so good in the flesh. They preach another jesus and if you follow them and get caught up into doing many fleshly good works and think they are your own, this is where you are at.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

When Will We Know We Have No Role?

Until and unless ones come to see that free will is strong delusion, they don’t know God nor Christ except in the flesh. God has to drag us thru that veil of flesh and thru His fiery trials and judgments, then and only then will we know He is the Lord. Interesting to note the “WHEN” we shall know He is the Lord. It is when Christ appears to us and begins to grind us to powder.

Mat 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

Ezekiel 7:9  And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will recompense thee according to thy ways and thine abominations that are in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the LORD that smiteth.

It is by this process of judgment, the strange work of the Lord that we come to know Him.

Until we look behind in our walk after judgment has fallen upon us, we will never be able to see this all as the Lord’s work.  We don’t learn righteousness until judgment comes to our earth and then we will learn what being Lord really means.

Isa 26:9when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. 

Exo 6:6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:

I thank God the Lord has not had pity as otherwise we would stay right where we are in the world playing church. We would therefore NEVER KNOW HIM. Far better to pay the cost of count of the blessing of being a chosen disciple even if it costs you everything the world so highly esteems. Carrying a cross is painful to our flesh, it will bring great sorrow. JOB came to see this.

Ezekiel 7:27 The king shall mourn, and the prince shall be clothed with desolation, and the hands of the people of the land shall be troubled: I will do unto them after their way, and according to their deserts will I judge them; and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 11:10 Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 12:15 And they shall know that I am the LORD, WHEN I shall scatter them among the nations, and disperse them in the countries.

Ezekiel 30:26 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and disperse them among the countries; and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Until we live thru these days, we will believe in free will and while we will call Jesus Lord, we will NOT know Him and that He truly, really is Lord. Not only do birds not fall from the sky outside of His will but we don’t have a thought, speak a word, take a step or do anything outside of His will either. That is God Almighty. The Lord believed by Babylonians is a puny weak pathetic God, that cannot even get His own will done and save everyone.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

The Lord Really Is Lord!!

The definition of LORD of Lords and King of Kings needs to be elevated from what we knew when we were yet carnal and devoid of true knowledge. The Lord really is Lord of the heavens and the earth. These speak not of physical things, as heaven is our hearts and minds and the earth is the church. Christ does not allow anything nor does He revert to plan B and then clean up the messes the free will of men supposedly make. That is all carnal nonsense. The Lord is the Lord and everything that happens in heaven and in the earth which all comes about by the HIS WILL. His will is being done, no matter what happens. He stretches forth the heavens and the earth and again this is not speaking of physical things, it refers to spiritual things, the things unseen.

Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

The Lord is the master potter and we are indeed the clay as are all things Christ created which is all things. We are doing exactly what the Lord has written for our lives, every one of us. It was all written before there were any days existing. The end was indeed declared from the beginning.

Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

It takes the gift of faith to believe that. It takes the gift of faith to believe Jesus really truly is the Lord. He is and I hope you will believe. The Lord even must give us the ears to hear and eyes to discern HIS truths and believe this word. SALVATION IS OF THE LORD. If you hear or read of anyone giving to man the responsibility to take action to save themselves; you are listening or reading a false prophet and a wolf in sheep’s clothing. There is none better at sending wolves in sheep’s clothing then the Lord. He is the master of disguise. They don’t call it strong delusion for nothing.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Which Christ do you follow? Is your Christ dependent upon pieces of clay He made and molds and directs every step to do anything? or is your Christ so powerful and sitting as LORD ruling in the heavens and on the earth, in absolute charge of all things that happen. I hope the latter and you will begin to believe the Scriptures, which state this hundreds of times.

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

If one will try the spirits that speak or claim man has any role in salvation, using the SUM OF THY WORD and bringing forth treasures out of the old and the new testament, it is clear for those with eyes to see and ears to here, that man has absolutely no role in his salvation. SALVATION IS INDEED OF THE LORD. And lest we forget what salvation means. It means to be delivered from the power of sin, it does not mean avoiding eternal hell. Look at this promise of the New Covenant. There is NO YOU DO ANYTHING, it is all I WILL SAYS THE LORD. He causes us to obey HIM, HE delivers us from sin. That is salvation!!!!!!!

Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Eze 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Eze 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Eze 36:29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.

Eze 36:30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

AGAIN WE SEE THAT GOD IS DOING IT ALL.  100% of it.  YOU HAVE NO ROLE IN IT.

 

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The Same Lump of Clay

clay lumpI got a rather rude and condescending email today where the man totally twisted some powerful scripture to support the false doctrines he believes.   This is the second and final time I will respond to the man to whom I have shared the sincere milk of this word and corrected his assertions of several false doctrines unless the Lord grants to him repentance.

I decided to use his promotion of Romans 9 Scripture to prove his false doctrine as a teaching moment for those the Lord may be dragging.  Understanding what these Romans 9 verses actually mean is essential to knowing the true nature of the Lord and God’s plan for all men.

Question From G_______: Sure the Lord is the potter but some vessels are made to dishonor and some to honor as these verses tell us from Romans 9. God is not going to save everyone.

Romans 9:21-24Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonour? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?”

ANSWER: Dear G______ I find it ironic that the very verses you gave to me speak of UNIVERSAL SALVATION but you can’t even see that. The truth that all men will be saved thru Christ is right here in this passage.  In particular I am going to explore the bolded areas below from this passage that tell a great truth if one can see it.  God is not some monster wanting to pour His wrath out on us as the eternal torment doctrine teaches.  His wrath is poured out on those HE loves, it is the way salvation comes to all men in their appointed time.  Secondly, you do not understand what is meant by the word Jew and Gentile in Romans 9 and that lack of understanding will keep  you from seeing a clear “good news” message in the verses you cited.

What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

The Scriptures cited tell us God wants to show His wrath, He desires to make His power known and He will have us all to come to know the fact that He is the LORD.  A Lord of anything means He is in absolute charge of everything that happens.  Jesus is the LORD yet billions just give that fact lip service, they don’t know what being Lord means.  What the carnal mind cannot understand in its strong delusion is that Christ really is the Lord and that means He causes all things that happen to happen. In fact all Scriptures that speak to us coming to know He is the Lord speak to us going thru the wrath of God against our sins and carnal nature. That is how we come to know His true character and understand His purposes in all things. If this is not happening to you, it means you are not now a son of God and are a bastard, an illegitimate son.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

The scourging and chastening is God’s wrath.  This is the righteous judgment of God poured out on our flesh which is how we all learn righteousness.

Isa 26:9 … for when thy judgments are in the earth (and not one moment prior) , the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

and we are that earth, this speaks of our bodies and our minds.

Jer 22:29 O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD.

Heretofore you could not see it and maybe you still can’t?  This is because false doctrines like the Trinity doctrine, eternal torment and man having free will, are keeping you blinded and solidly under the influence of Babylonian doctrines.  This is the Lord’s doing as He is the only one who can open ears and eyes and give the understanding of the truth.  We have no say so in that.  The Babylonian teaching that anyone can pick up a Bible and read and teach themselves the truth is a lie.  All of it is written in parables and the events themselves are parables and that is to hide the meaning so said the Lord.

Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is GIVEN unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not GIVEN.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

So it is not your fault but you are not currently in the truth and are believing the lies of Babylon.  Everyone one of your doctrines is based on the apostate church and is what we all learn when we first come to Christ. But it is another jesus and a different gospel. We must live by every word God spoke and that includes first being deceived and walking in strong delusion once we come to know Christ in the flesh. The Lord will have mercy on us all in our appointed times but know what Christ said about why He came into this world.

Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

All the time we claim we see we are blind. Unless and until the Lord shows us via our own road to Damascus experience, we are still in darkness and separated from the truth by the veil of flesh and our sins remain. A big problem in your theology is that you do not currently know who is true jew and by extension who are the gentiles. I will help you with that Lord willing.

Rom 2:28 FOR HE IS NOT A JEW, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Here is another witness to what matters and tells us clearly who is ISRAEL in this age.

Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
Gal 6:16 and as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Lastly,  these words of Christ are some we must commit to our memory.  Being a Jew in the flesh profits itself NOTHING.

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

So when you read Romans 9 as you cited to me and forget who a real Jew is, you don’t understand what is being said. If you could only keep this truth in your head when you look at Scripture maybe you would be given to understand what Paul actually said in Romans 9. What Paul said is that God will make known the riches of His glory (which is Christ in you, the hope of Glory), not only to the true Jews (God’s Elect now, the true Jews who are one inwardly) but eventually to everyone else who is not now a Jew (i.e. THE GENTILES or anotherwords ALL MEN). There are only two types of men, Jews and Gentiles. Those in the covenant of faith and those that are not. Eventually all will be real “jews” but we will have to wait until the lake of fire for the multitudes to be brought into the true faith.

And what you do not realize or believe is that the process of salvation, Christ being formed in us, comes with the wrath of God being poured out on the first adam, the marred vessel of clay that cannot nor was ever intended to inherit the kingdom of God. No man enters into Christ (the real one) any other way.

Rev 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues (OF WRATH) of the seven angels were fulfilled.

 

Exo 6:6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:

God is merciful and patient with the marred vessels of clay HE made thru Jesus Christ. As the Scriptures you shared tell us, the first Adam, the vessel of dishonor is prepared for destruction!!!

In case you missed it, look also right here in the same Romans 9 you cited your Scripture from. You must know who Israel is to have any chance of understanding the Scriptures.

Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Can it be any clearer? THEY ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD who are jews of the flesh! This error is a gigantic log in your eye that I am pointing out to you as it was pointed out to me in times past. We all first learn lies and then if the Lord has mercy, those tares are gathered and burned in the fire of the truth of God’s word. You like all of us who come to Christ at first, have been taught by men. You are still in Babylon, infected with the leprosy of their false doctrines. My last post spoke about the need to try the spirits and weed out false doctrines and this error of who is a jew and a gentile is huge.

The verses you cited about the vessels of honor and dishonor are awesome truths if we are given to correctly apply the Scriptures. Here is the passage again you sent me to prove God is not saving everybody and is going to pour his wrath out on these vessels of dishonor.

Romans 9:21-24Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonour? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?”

We, all men are both of these vessels. That is the SAME ONE LUMP. We come into this world as the first adam, marred in the hands of the potter, conceived in a body of sinful flesh. We can’t help but sin as the one lawgiver put the law of sin and death into our members.  Here is a key verse that helps one understand the two vessels from the one lump of clay.

Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

The vessels of honor that you and I at first will assume are that evil man down the street is you and me.   We all are the vessel of dishonor before the Lord in His appointed time remakes us into the vessel of honor that can enter the kingdom of God.  Learn to apply Scripture inwardly.  Who did Paul blame his sinful ways on? It was not him, but sin, the law of “sin and death”  specifically that the potter put into him In fact we are told this twice in Romans 7.

Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

It is not man that does it, all the evil in the world, including every sin is caused by God. All things is all things and yes that includes our very sins.

Isa 63:17  O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear? Return for thy servants’ sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Amo 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city (inward or outward cities), and the LORD hath not done it?

God has not lost control. The devil is not running around loose outside of God’s control, LOL that is all carnal doctrines that result from believing the lies of the harlot.

But this is God’s plan for all men. We come in naked in sinful flesh and then that old man is destroyed in order for the new man, the Lord from heaven to come forth. All men will live this sequence of Scriptures as we will live by every word God spoke.  This explains the two vessels from the one lump and I hope you can believe it.

1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

All Israel is not Israel right now (only God’s elect are Israel) but in the end All Israel shall be saved which simply means the potter will finish His work and remake all things.

Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

I hope the Lord will give you the right spirit and open your ears to receive His truths and grant you the same repentance He granted to me from my former ignorance. If you have sincere questions please submit them to me but know this commandment given to servants of the Lord.

2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive (quarrel); but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance (Given to men, no free will involved) to the acknowledging of the truth;
2Ti 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

 

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