Biblical Truth, Sovereignty

Learning Good and Evil

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According to scriptures there is no record of Adam and Eve ever being children nor that they had a father and mother to guide them.  They only had GOD to guide them. Would any one dare to say that GOD failed?  Did God make a mistake by their sin and the resulting death that was brought to all men?  That would mean that GOD missed the mark and that GOD sinned because sin means missing the mark.

Lest us not forget here, that we are talking about the same GOD, that instruct us on how to raise a child.

Proverbs 23:13 Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.

Proverbs 23:14 Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.

Proverbs 29:15 The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.

So all of this correction and punishment is GOOD.  It is good for us physical parents with our physical children and yet it is exactly what God does spiritually to us to make us into the image and likeness of Christ.  It is how God, the supreme creator saves lives and wisdom is imparted.  Would God have put children on the planet without the benefit of this parenting?  It is foolish to believe that GOD could not have made Adam and Eve so they would not sin.  God made them sinners by the mere fact they were made flesh.  Adam and Eve sinned (as we all do also) because “it was written”

Psalm 139:16 Thine eyes did see mine unformed substance; And in thy book they were all written, Even the days that were ordained for me , When as yet there was none of them.

Without evil and without sin,  good could never be challenged and one would never be able to learn the things of God.  Knowing good and evil is of essence for us to become like the “ONE OF US” in Genesis

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold! the man becomes as (((one of us, to know good and evil ! ))) and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat,

What the whole professing church fails to see is that what the serpent said to Eve contained both truth and lies.  However, the part that is true and the part that is the lie have been totally reversed.  The church believes the lie and rejects the truth.

Gen 3:4  And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Gen 3:5  For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Verse 4 is the lie.  God created man in a marred vessel of clay on purpose knowing and expecting it to die.  The serpent has man believing he shall not die and man therefore is deceived into holding on this life in the flesh and carnal mind.  Verse 5 is actually the truth and the serpent told the truth.  God placed us here to eat of this tree so our eyes would be opened and over time we would become like Him.  This in fact is what a mature man in Christ has done; they have learned good and evil.

Heb 5:14  But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Such is the purpose of this life here and now, to prepare us for the glory to be revealed.


Proverbs 16:4 The Lord created all things, yes even the WICKED for a day of evil.

And here is that day of evil:

Genesis 3:11 “Who told you that you were naked?” the LORD God asked. “Have you eaten from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat?”

Do not for one second think that GOD was surprised by Adams huge sin here and here is why:

Psalm 139:16 Thine eyes did see mine unformed substance; And in thy book they were all written, Even the days that were ordained for me , When as yet there was none of them.

Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”  (This is when all the ELECT were chosen, before they were even born).

Job 14:5 Man’s days are determined; you have decreed the number of his months and have set limits he cannot exceed.

Even our tears are recorded;

Psalm 56:8 Record my lament; list my tears on your scroll–are they not in your record?

Our hairs are also counted;

Matthew 10:30 And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

So no GOD was not at all surprised there is ample proof that GOD not only knew but had it all preplanned through CHRIST (THE WORD OF GOD).

But like always the carnal mind hates to be wrong and will always err not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.  Here is what Adam says;

Genesis 3:12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me–she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

And who is the one that enticed “THE WOMAN” ? Yes Satan did and here is how:

Job 1:8 And the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job,

(or Eve, Adam, myself or you reading this because GOD is no respecter of persons)

Job 1:9 that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?” 9Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Does Job fear God for no reason?

Job 1:10 Have you not put (((a hedge))) around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.

All blessings are from the Lord.  All of us that have really good jobs, nice homes, bank accounts, good husbands, wives, obedient children and any other nice things, they are all from the Lord.  Do not think for one moment that all these nice things are the result of your “good works”.  In the eyes of God all of our good works are truly filthy rages.  We should not think for a moment that it is because of US, or our brilliance or free will decisions that all of this is ours, as God makes fools of the wise and prudent.

You see the way of entering the kingdom of God is through much tribulation.  When we are living at ease in Zion,  we are still yet under the hedge of God’s protection and our day of judgment has not yet come.  It is through judgment, not by avoiding it, that we will all come to know the Lord.  Here are  a couple of Scriptures of the hundreds that speak to this, that is totally contrary to the doctrines we all were raised under.

Rev 15:8  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues (WRATH) of the seven angels were fulfilled.

Isa 1:27  Zion shall be redeemed with judgment

1Pe 4:17  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

The reason why we are not destroyed until our appointed time comes is because God has a SUK (HEDGE) around us.  Here is that word “hedge” defined.

Original Word: שׂוּך
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: suk
Phonetic Spelling: (sook)
Short Definition: hedge

Until our day of judgment comes, a hedge provided by God is protecting us and our goods.  This allows us to live at ease in Zion and think everything is just hunky dory.

We see this same word SUK for HEDGE or “fenced” only three times.  But a very interesting use is here in Hosea.  We see Christ telling us we are hedged in by a wall where we cannot find the true path.

Hos 2:6  Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.

Hos 2:7  And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them: then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now.

Hos 2:8  For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, which they prepared for Baal.

We see that all the while we are hedged in,  God is giving us corn and wine and all the trappings that the world so esteems.  These things are of God, He is multiplying our silver and gold that we are preparing and sacrificing to our false god.  But just like JOB, in our appointed time,  this hedge will come down and the Lord will return to reclaim His “corn” and “wine”.

Hos 2:9  Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax given to cover her nakedness.

This is not talking about the man over there, it is talking about YOU and ME, all men.  We will live by every word.  When the hedge is removed, our nakedness (SIN) will be exposed and we will be taught what a wretched man we all are in this flesh.

This is totally contrary to the carnal mind and what we all have learned, but it is true.  Here are what some of the prophets of old had to say about this topic and these things were written for out admonition upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

Habakkuk 1:13 Your eyes are too pure to look on evil; you cannot tolerate wrong. Why then do you tolerate the treacherous?)) Why are you silent while the wicked swallow up those more righteous than themselves?

Jeremiah 12:1 You are always righteous, O LORD, when I bring a case before you. Yet I would speak with you about your justice: Why does the way of the wicked prosper? Why do all the faithless live at ease?


Job 9:24 When a land falls into the hands of the wicked, he [GOD] blindfolds its judges. If it is not he, [GOD] then who is it?

WHO IS IT? I KNOW IT IS GOD and the Scriptures agree.

Job 10:3 Does it please you to oppress me, to spurn the work of your hands, while you smile on the schemes of the wicked?

What Happens When The Hedge Is Removed

Job 16:11 God  has turned me over to evil men and thrown me into the clutches of the wicked.

Job knew it was GOD behind his afflictions and JOB did not give the glory to Satan and neither should we.  It is blasphemous to blame things on Satan who is merely a servant of God.

God used Satan to destroy JOB’s self righteousness.  This lives in all of us and is what makes the beast that we all are tick.  This must be destroyed in its appointed time for salvation to come to a man.

Joh 12:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

Mat 16:25  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

As a recent post concentrated on, it is only by going through the wrath and judgment of God that any of us will truly come to know the Lord.  That post can be accessed by clicking here and here is one such Scripture declaring this amazing truth.

Ezekiel 7:4 And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity: but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Listen  to Satan’s foolishness in thinking that God did not know already that JOB would not curse Him to His face.

JOB 1:11 But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.”

Yet God knew all that would come to pass.  The end has already been declared from the beginning, every day, every step, every word, all things are being worked by God as has already been written. PSALM 139:16 tells us that all our days were written before there were any but Satan does not know it and here is that truth also:

But Satan, the prince of this world had no clue.  He is as carnal as we are in our marred vessels of clay.

1 Corinthians 2:7-9  No, we speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written:

“No eye has seen,

no ear has heard,

no mind has conceived

what God has prepared for those who love him”

But God purpose is to reveal this wisdom and these mysteries to only a few.  They are revealed only unto the HIS CHOSEN ONES, the ELECT and they are not revealed by the will of man but only by the Spirit.


1 COR 2:10  but God has revealed it to us (THE ELECT) by his Spirit.

Let us continue with the lesson in JOB.  Here is how GOD also sent Satan to Eve to destroy her, Adam, and still sends Satan to us to destroy us all in our appointed times.

Job 1:12 And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.

So how does the professing church come up with the idea that Satan has any power?  The only power Satan has is power God grants to him and actually orders Satan to perform.  God tells Satan that he can destroy all of JOB’s possessions but Satan cannot lay a finger on JOB, only his possessions.

The second time God does allow Satan to bring boils all over JOB’s body but is told he cannot take JOB’s soul nor his life.  We must get real clear that Satan does not take one step or do anything outside of the will of God.  Like all men, God is directing every single step of Satan.  He was created as a destroyer and all things God creates are perfect creations for what they were designed to do.

Isa 54:16  Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

Yet this is the mystery of salvation and God’s plan.  He is going to remake all things by first destroying the first Adam that is in all of us.  With death comes the new Adam, Christ the new man.  First the natural then the spiritual.  First corruption, then incorruption.  1 COR 15 speaks of this mysterious process and plan of God to remake all of us in our appointed times.

1 Corinthians 15:21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.

But this idea that man was made perfect and sinless from the beginning in these vessels of clay is one of the most profound lies believed in Babylon.

Psalm 53:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Psalm 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Job Knew this.

Job 14:4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.

And so therefore this question arises;

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, “I have kept my heart pure; I am clean and without sin”?

I know I will not say I am without sin.  None of us can truly say we are without sin.  We are all wretched men and nothing good dwells in our flesh.

Here are the things that attribute to our very birth:

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Which are the very same things identified early on and seen in the first vessels of clay God created marred on purpose in His hands.

Genesis 3:6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom

Who made those eyes that lusted?  Who put the desire in Eve’s heart for wisdom?  It was of course God, the master Potter.  Eve did not decide to lust or to seek wisdom on her own.  We like Christ can do nothing on our own initiative.  Eve sinned long before she ever ate of the apple.  The Scriptures state they were naked and not ashamed.  So Eve took and ate of the tree and also gave some to her husband.


Matthew 5:28 But I say to you, That whoever looks on a woman (THE FRUIT) to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Who has never looked at a woman with lust or the woman the man? Who has not hated and here is what we commit simply by the thought of hating someone:

1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.

And here is why;

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

Man truly is a piece of clay in the hands of the Master Potter God.  All of our steps and words and deeds are ordained of God.  Every obedience and ever disobedience is all of God.  He is working in us to will and to way according to His good pleasure. All things are truly of God as the Scriptures declare for those with eyes to see and hears to hear.  Here is a verse for which there will not be many sermons preached.

Isa 63:17  O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear?

God is the heart maker and the heart surgeon.  He will make us obey Him in the times appointed.  It is through His chastening grace that God will bring about His will to all men in the days and hours He has declared from the beginning.

Eze 36:27  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

We are all the children of God.  He created us all and loves us all.  Christ loved the whole world and still does.  The gospel of good news that will set you free if you are given the faith to believe it, is that all men will be saved.  It only awaits the times appointed by God who has declared it all from the start.  Salvation, which means to be freed from sin will come to all men.  The way will be paved with much judgment and tribulation and only a few there be shall find that way in this life in this body of flesh.  This is the truth of the Scriptures.  Trust in these words and in the Lord for He is the Rock eternal.

Jer 18:3  Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.

Jer 18:4  And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

And we will end this with the faithful words of the KING about His plans and intentions regarding these marred vessels of weak clay.

Rev 21:5  And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Getting the basics of the milk of this gospel is of extreme importance.  The salvation of all men is the gospel along with the eternal judgment of God.  This judgment is how we all will come to know He is the Lord and come to agree totally with the statements of David.

Psa 19:9  The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

Psa 19:10  More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

The Lord is good.  His purposes are always for good, even in punishment and in judgment.  Mercy will triumph over judgment and God will get His will done and all of us shall know He is the Lord from the least to the greatest.  We shall all be taught of God in our appointed times.  Let him hear who has ears.

Sincere comments and questions are encouraged!