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God’s Sovereignty vs Man’s Free Will

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Pro 19:21 There are many devices in a man’s heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.

The will of Almighty God gets done and it depends not one iota on the will of any man.  This is truly what real faith is all about and the Lord must give it to us and open our hearts to understand it.  I have been shown and have been tracking this wonderful, yoke removing truth,  that God is in control of all things that happen on this earth and in the lives of all.  I share this with joy for those with ears to hear.

Isaiah 65:1-2  I was sought by those who did not ask for Me, I was found by those who did not seek Me. I said, ‘Here I am, here I am,’ To a nation that was not called by My name.  I have stretched out My hands all day long to a rebellious people, who walk in a way that is not good, According to their own thoughts

God makes people seek Him.  He reveals Himself to those who did not make a mental decision (ie a carnal one) to seek Him.  God does all the calling, choosing and literally dragging of people to Him.  That is the mystery and seeming paradox these verses from Isaiah declare.  But the truth that all things are of God is much bigger than just that simple truth.   This blog has covered many times of late the fact that nobody decides to save themselves by choosing God.  God alone is in control of salvation and to whom and when it comes.  It will come to all men ultimately that is the promise and the foundation of the GOOD NEWS.  Knowing this wonderful truth will give you freedom you cannot describe to those that cannot hear the words of Christ.    I have been seeking and seeing an almost equally amazing truth with my new spiritual eyes.  This truth is that God is absolutely sovereign over His creation.

To see truth in Scripture, we must take the sum of thy word (Psalm 119:160).  We will see in this post that while we do have thoughts, those thoughts are given to us by God and their interpretation and how we respond to them is also all the work of God.  This statement and thought I am sure will get many spinning already.   But stay with me on this,  it is a powerful truth to see.  This post is long and will show many verses, such as this one from Paul’s Mars Hill speech that speak to God working all things as HE determined beforehand.

Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation

Man does not go anywhere or do anything not already written and declared from the beginning.  Coming to know the profound truth of God’s sovereignty is what will bring deep peace and remove the yoke and heavy burden all men carry without true knowledge of God.  One will know what I speak of when they come to see that nothing happens, and I mean nothing on this earth or in your life that the Lord has not ordained to happen.  It was all written and determined beforehand.  That is how powerful our God is that we will always put into a box and limit in our carnal minds.  Knowing this is the means of entering into the Sabbath rest that remains for the people of God and ceasing from our own works.

Hebrews 4:9-10 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

God willing, I will share some things He has shown me in that regard but let’s focus here to understand that man has no free will and that ever decision, word, step, action, event that happens in our lives is from the Lord.  There is not much of a particular order of the verses we will now review in this post.  The common theme in all the verses is that they declare the sovereignty of God and gives God the credit and the glory for all things that happen.

This certainly includes salvation, ultimately for all men;  but it also includes choosing His Elect now, deceiving us, giving us eyes to see, making us deaf and dumb spiritually; you name it; it all belongs to the Lord.  This truth of God’s sovereignty destroys the false belief that man has any free will in this life.  Carnal minds and flesh will  never want to accept this nor can they even receive this truth as Romans 8:7 states.  All men are born blind to this truth as we will see just shortly in this post.  God’s total and complete sovereignty must be revealed to us in the Lord’s appointed time.   Not only is man born totally spiritually blind, and will be hostile to this word of truth,  men will scoff at and despise at the mere suggestion we have no free will.  Those that teach the truth will be reviled and labelled as heretics and blasphemers.  Yet we will be in good company following the footsteps of the Lord and the Apostles and bearing the hatred and accusations they endured and indeed all true disciples endure.

Quoting from Habakkuk 1, the Apostle Paul spoke to the Jews (the self righteous, free will crowd) of his day declaring this mystery and the unbelief that would veil HIS mighty working from the multitudes that walk after the flesh.

ACTS 13:41 Behold, you despisers,
Marvel and perish!
For I work a work in your days,
A work which you will by no means believe,
Though one were to declare it to you.’

The things spoken of thru the prophets are the total sovereignty of God and Him working all things for the greater good of the chosen few who love Him now.  All is indeed being worked pursuant to God’s will, not even birds fall from the sky outside of that will.  This is what the carnal mind will not believe even if it is declared to them. I have gotten a baptism by fire in learning this rejection in recent months since I was healed and my appointed day of  believing this gospel arrived.  I have learned the utter folly or arguing and striving, contending and wrangling over these deep truths of God.  The blind cannot see.  The deaf cannot hear.  The free will doctrine is a form of self righteousness and a real idol of the heart.  It is pretty simple.  God simply lets men live within this deception until their appointed day of the Lord arrives.

Ezekiel 14:4 Thus says the Lord God: “Everyone of the house of Israel who sets up his idols in his heart, and puts before him what causes him to stumble into iniquity, and then comes to the prophet, I the Lord will answer him who comes, according to the multitude of his idols

Only God Reveals His Truths and WORD

Man does not study himself smart on the truths or mysteries of God.  If you had one take away from reading the Bible and the stories about the Pharisees and Sadducee’s and religious folks,  it should that man is incapable of discovering the truth on his own.  All revelation is given by God period.  The reverse is also true; all deception is ordained and given by God.  All things are of God.

MAT 13:11 He answered and said to them, because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.

MAT 13:13  Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

So God will get all the glory, even for anyone knowing the truth of the mysteries of the Kingdom.  Like faith, knowledge of the mysteries of the Kingdom are all good gifts coming down from the Father.  Speaking to His disciples, and not speaking to the world, ONLY THE CHOSEN FEW, Jesus says this.

Matthew 11:25,27 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. …. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

How clear is this?  We see the same story with some additional detail over in Luke. What a blessing to be given ears to hear.

Luke 10:2324 Then He turned to His disciples and said privately, “Blessed are the eyes which see the things you see; 24 for I tell you that many prophets and kings have desired to see what you see, and have not seen it, and to hear what you hear, and have not heard it.

The kings and the prophets are all of those in the world that are called of God and are seeking the mysteries of the kingdom. What many seek they do not find because they have not been chosen.

God hides things from the wise and prudent and reveals these mysteries only unto His babes.  Even the knowledge of God, and of the Son is subject to this universal truth.  All things are of God.  The Apostle John reinforces this and directly stated that believing this gospel, having true faith in Christ and what Jesus has done thru the Father,  that very faith is only revealed by God.  The rest are blinded, every last one of them.  They can’t believe even if they try.

John 12:39-40Lord, who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”

39 Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again:

40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, (GOD DOES IT)
Lest they should see with their eyes,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.”

The truth and the mysteries of the kingdom of God are revealed only to whom God chooses. Everyone else is blind and knows not what they are doing when they persecute the true disciples of God and by extension Christ Himself.  Lest anyone thinks, this truth of revelation of the mysteries is just contained in the gospel accounts; I will leave this subtopic with one verse (of scores) from the Epistles of the Apostles.

Romans 11:7  What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded.  Just as it is written:

“God has given them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes that they should not see
and ears that they should not hear,
to this very day.”

This topic of the sovereignty of God is so big and so important it transcends into virtually every possible topic of doctrine.  This is the giant log that is in the world’s eyes which only God can remove so they can see. 

ALL THINGS ARE OF GOD

Now we can begin to accept and have the walls of our carnal understanding torn down by the fire of God’s Word.  Perhaps some can now begin to embrace that God works ALL THINGS that happen.

 Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh ALL THINGS after the counsel of his OWN WILL:

2 COR 5:18  Now ALL THINGS are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ

All things truly means all things.  No exclusions and most certainly the free will of man.  God is the causation of all things.  He works in us to will and to way.  I am trying to keep this short but I wanted quickly make the point that the accusation is typically made by carnal minds that men are not robots.  I agree totally but want the carnal mind is slow and hard of hearing, and limits God always, is that God causes all events and circumstances to happen so we make the choice that we make.  We are clay and He is the potter.  There are tons of stories of events that could be cited here that foretell this macro truth.  God influences circumstances to bring about the decisions He has ordained for men to be making.  God even sends evil spirits to people to entice them into evil deeds, even murder.

1 SAM 19:9  And the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.  And Saul sought to smite David even to the wall with the javelin

1 Kings 22:20-21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him. 22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he (GOD) said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

Ezekiel 14:9  And if the prophet is induced to speak anything, I the Lord have induced that prophet, and I will stretch out My hand against him and destroy him from among My people Israel.

This is strong meat yet we will come to know that God control all things, even evil spirits that He created.  But let’s also consider some very simple things from life.    A simple example using food or drink shall suffice.  Some people like Coke, others don’t.  These are choices they make.  But those choices come from their body’s response and specifically their taste buds.  Guess who made the taste buds?  GOD.  We all are unique creations.  But extend this over simplified fact into every decision you make, and maybe, if God permits you can begin to see that all things truly are of God.  There is freedom that comes from this understanding plus the fear of God, knowing this unimaginable power.  But back to the simple Scriptures that declare how and why things happen.

Phil 2:13  for IT IS GOD who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure

2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and CALLED US with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

It is not about what we do, it is all about what God does.  The deeper we dig, the broader the scope of God’s sovereignty becomes if we have been given eyes to see and ears to hear.  Here is a verse that shows that every one of our days has already been predetermined.

Psalm 139:16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
the days fashioned for me,
when as yet there were none of them.

This is not just speaking to how long we live in this body; it is speaking to everything that happens on every one of those days.  This was all determined and purposed by God, when there were no days, which means before the world began.  That is a powerful God my friends.  The very day we were appointed to come to faith, die, get married, graduate from school,  have a child,  all such days have already been determined.  We now must just live those days as man will live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

Men will look at Scripture like this that say our days are already determined, acknowledge  it and then in their next breadth claim that we have control over how long we live based on our lifestyle.

JOB 14:5 Since his days are determined, the number of his months is with You; And his limits You have set so that he cannot pass

By all means we reap what we sow, but you see God is so powerful, He already knows what we will sow and what and when we shall reap.  God is causing all this reaping and sowing.  All things are of God!

JOB 38:8-11 Or who shut in the sea with doors,
When it burst forth and issued from the womb;
9 When I made the clouds its garment,
And thick darkness its swaddling band;
10 When I fixed My limit for it,
And set bars and doors;
11 When I said,
‘This far you may come, but no farther,
And here your proud waves must stop!’

This is not speaking of the ocean; it is speaking of man and the limits of his supposed free will.  God has set the boundaries and our self righteous carnal mind can only go so far.  He is in absolute control.  Such peace to come to believe this truth, which as we have seen is indeed a gift.

In my former ignorance I blamed the Jews and held hatred secretly in my heart for their claim of special privilege with God and because I believed they on their own choice, rejected Christ and had Him crucified.  They did no such thing.  They did exactly what the Father had predetermined they would do on the exact day and time He has written before the world began.  Peter explained in his early sermons.

ACTS 4:27-28For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together 28 to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done.

ACTS 2:22-23  “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death

The lamb was slain before the foundation of the world.  Every sin and every wicked deed was known in advance by God and He was totally prepared and spoke His plan from the beginning.  It shall come to pass exactly as He declared it.  No man will have any effect on the will of Almighty God.  Jesus knew the power of His Father and that He truly did nothing on His own initiative.  All was of God.

 Luke 22:2122 But behold, the hand of My betrayer is with Me on the table. 22 And truly the Son of Man goes as it has been determined, but woe to that man by whom He is betrayed!

The Lord Directs Our Steps

The free will belief that dominates orthodox Christianity is truly an idol of the heart.  Many will agree that birds don’t fall from the sky outside of the Father’s will, but yet will stubbornly cling to their false doctrine of free will.  It truly is a giant log that is solidly entrenched in the spiritual eyes of the religious crowd that I have been pulled out of in God’s mercy.  His power extends to our very thoughts.

AMOS 4:13 For behold, He who forms mountains, And creates the wind, who declares to man what his thought is

Psalm 149:49 Remember the word unto thy servant, upon which thou hast caused me to hope

WOW.  The Lord even gives us thoughts.  Hope is a thought and even that is from God.  Do you see it?  That is an all powerful God.  Yet God also gives us evil thoughts.  We saw earlier that God put it into Saul to murder David (1 Sam 19:9-10).  All such evil plans are given to men by God and the agents He has delegated this assignment (evil spirits).

Ezek 38:10 Thus says the Lord God: “On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan:

So as the truth and the breadth and depth of the richness of God and His hands over ALL THINGS, becomes clear, we can now hopefully begin to see the deep truths of Scriptures such as Proverbs 16.  The Lord is doing it all, every word, every step, both good and evil.

 Proverbs 16:1 The preparations of the heart belong to man, But the answer of the tongue is from the Lord.

Proverbs 16:9 A man’s heart plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps.

When God turns on the light, the truth pours out like a flood.

Prov 20:24  A man’s steps are of the Lord; How then can a man understand his own way?

Prov 21:1  The king’s heart is in the hand of the Lord, Like the rivers of water; (GOD) He turns it wherever He wishes.

Jeremiah 10:23 O Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself; It is not in man who walks to direct his own steps

Psalm 37:23  The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord, And He delights in his way.

Psalm 40:6  Sacrifice and offering You did not desire; My ears You have opened.

This has become a powerful Scripture to me now.  The ability to not only hear, but also to speak the truth and the things of God is all given to us by God.  He is the potter, we mere pieces of clay.

Exodus 4:11 So the Lord said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I, the Lord? 12 Now therefore, go, and I will be with your mouth and teach you what you shall say.”

God is Responsible for Good and Evil

When we understand that God created all things and is the cause behind all things,  then we will begin to understand the vastness of God.  I don’t think it is possible for us to truly contemplate the vastness of the things of God.  It is a misunderstanding of carnal men, not given knowledge of the truth that is quick to give God credit for good things and blame anyone else, be it the devil or men themselves for evil things.  But that is just carnal logic.

Amos 3:6  Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

LAM 3:37-38  Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not? 38 Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?

Of course these things are all from God.  ALL THINGS are from GOD.

While men will give account for what they did, either good or evil, God will remain responsible for all of it.  He is the creator and the causation of ALL THINGS.  We see that God gets credit for both our obedience and our disobedience if you search the Scriptures and have eyes to see.  Please don’t accuse me of saying let’s go sin so grace may abound.  We’ve covered that of late in the comments.

Ezek 36:27  And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments

Praise God for this new covenant promise.  He is our righteousness and the cause of it all and to HIM will go all the glory for any of our good deeds.  But look also.

ISA 63:17 O Lord, why have You made us stray from Your ways, And hardened our heart from Your fear?

Man has simply put Almighty God in a box with his carnal minded limitations.  God does it all.  He causes all things to happen.

JOB 2:10  But he said to her, “You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God, and shall we not accept adversity?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

I like JOB am not sinning by giving God the credit and responsibility for ALL THINGS, even wicked things.  But foolish men with their hearts still darkened by the will of God, will never ever see it.

Proverbs 16:4  The Lord has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.

In fact,  God made the destroyer. He created evil including Satan, who was a murderer from the beginning, not some good little angel that rebelled against God.  Tearing down that false doctrine of Babylon will have to wait, this is a long enough post as it is.

ISA 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things

We see great evil done by Joseph’s brother in selling him into slavery to get rid of him and satisfy their wicked jealousy in their hearts.  Yet all the while they thought in their carnal minds, they did the evil,  we are told clearly in a couple of places that it was not them, it was God that did it.  Here is one such place and the whole story is told in Genesis Chapters 37-50.

Gen 50:29-20 Joseph said to them, “Do not be afraid, for am I in the place of God? 20 But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.

JOB 12:14-16  If He breaks a thing down, it cannot be rebuilt;
If He imprisons a man, there can be no release.
15 If He withholds the waters, they dry up;
If He sends them out, they overwhelm the earth.
16 With Him are strength and prudence.
The deceived and the deceiver are His.

God does work all things for the greater good of those that love Him.  Even working evil and raising up deceivers and letting people get deceived.  This is what carnal minds will not believe but those with ears to hear no differently and will give GOD ALL THE CREDIT.

2 Thess 2:11  And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

ISA 65:4  I (GOD) also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them

God does it.  God sends the strong delusion to work HIS WILL.  He even made a devil and created a destroyer to destroy.  That is a good God once we understand these things.

ISA 54:16-17  “Behold, I have created the blacksmith
Who blows the coals in the fire,
Who brings forth an instrument for his work;
And I have created the spoiler to destroy.
17 No weapon formed against you shall prosper,
And every tongue which rises against you in judgment
You shall condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord,
And their righteousness is from Me,”

I believe this Scripture and know that my righteousness only comes from God.  My own righteousness is truly as filthy rags as Isaiah says elsewhere.  Without His garments of salvation I would be like all men, naked and in my sins, the same way Adam and Eve came into this world.  God’s ways are not our ways that is for sure.

God calls the chosen few out of their slumber in the middle of the night (spiritual darkness) and opens their ears to hear.  This is the beginning of our path of discipleship, we are withdrawn from this world, made aliens to it, by HIS choice and HIS power, so we will do HIS will.

 Job 33:15-17

In a dream, in a vision of the night,

when deep sleep falleth upon men,

in slumberings upon the bed;

16 Then he openeth the ears of men,

and sealeth their instruction,

17 That he may withdraw man from HIS purpose, and hide pride from man.

As clay in the hands of the Potter, we are put to sleep in spiritual darkness by His power.  In our appointed time, He awakens us to His righteousness and opens our ears and seals our instructions by the Holy Spirit.  This lake of fire experience to the chosen few,  will chop down and hide the pride of man, that self righteous, free will believing carnal man that we once were.  This is the glorious truth that is revealed unto babes.

The Elect of God, the Chosen Few, HIS PEOPLE

Psalm 3:8  Salvation belongs to the Lord.  Your blessing is upon Your people

We  saw above that God makes wicked people and of course He makes good people.  He makes ALL THINGS as this post is proving from the Scriptures.  We are all the work of His hands.

ISA 64:8  But now, O Lord,
You are our Father;
We are the clay, and You our potter;
And all we are the work of Your hand

Yet the Scriptures also tells us of God’s plans for His Elect, the chosen few that He saves in each generation and sends forth to preach His true gospel.  A tremendous revelation to come to know this and you will only know it if you are so blessed a chosen vessel of God.  Lest anyone thinks we boast, no we do not,  such an election is all unmerited and was determined by God before the world began.  Like faith, this is all a gift.  Here are some “election” verses that speak to God’s purposes and plans for these few people, which collectively are the BODY of CHRIST, the BRIDE and the true church.

Romans 8:28-30  And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

I used to foolishly argue this predestination spoke corporately to all of those that would choose to accept Christ in this life.  Oh how dark are the carnal reasoning of mere men.  God must show you this and when He does, you will know it came from Him as a gift.  You will not be taking credit for figuring it out.

Eph 1:3-5  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will

Salvation is all by grace and God’s choosing.  In each of our generations,  God is only choosing a few to save and a few to bring His righteous judgments upon.  Their day of doom and fiery trials in the lake of fire will be now. 

1 Peter 1:9-10  But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.

2 TIM 2:10  So I am willing to endure anything if it will bring salvation and eternal glory in Christ Jesus to those God has chosen

As we saw, those not given the truth by God’s choice are blinded.  They cannot hear the words of Jesus because they have not yet been chosen.  Jesus only speaks to His Elect and they are His sheep and the only ones that hear His voice.  This pisses of the carnal minded ones called but still in darkness.  It used to piss me off and I have been on the receiving end of this dynamic the past few months.  But truth is truth and I write this for those that have ears to hear.

John 13:18  I am not saying these things to all of you; I know the ones I have chosen

John 15:16  You didn’t choose me. I chose you.

Disciples don’t choose to be disciples. Man has no free will to choose God.  Even the process of being born again, which comes to all disciples, is clearly the work of God yet carnal minds will continue to argue the clear Scriptures.

John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,  who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God

All that come to God do not come willingly by their own will.  God drags them kicking and screaming in their flesh wondering what the heck is going on with me.  Been there done that!

John 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me DRAGS (draws) him

John 6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me

ALL CHOSEN DISCIPLES WILL COME.  None shall be lost, except Judas so the Scriptures could be fulfilled.

Romans 3:10-12 There is none righteous, not even one;  There is none who understands, There is none who seeks for God; All have turned aside, together they have become useless; There is none who does good, There is not even one.”

Isaiah 64:7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

We truly are clay.  We have no free will to do anything, much less choose God.  These Scriptures are perfectly clear on this immutable truth and as you can see, there is a plethora of them, it is not possible to build a doctrine on a single corrupting of Scriptures.  God’s absolute sovereignty and man’s lack of free will is not a doctrine, it is a pillar of truth upon which the entire gospel stands.  If one does not believe this, they have another gospel and a different Jesus than the one true living God.  There is no “you choosing” in any of this.

Romans 9:15-16 – For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.

We don’t even “decide” to love God.  That too is given to us.

Romans 5:5  Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us

If someone has read this far and if God’s willed it,  it should be getting clearer the truth of this Scripture.

2 COR 5:18  Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

We are His chosen vessels made in this marred lump of clay.  But God is doing a mighty work in His Elect and the power working thru us, is not us but is all God.

2 Cor 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

 God’s Thoughts and Ways

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

What we read in the Bible with carnal eyes about judgment and wrath and destruction lead us to a false image of God.  I wanted to just touch on these seemingly “horrible” things to prod those breaking loose from Babylon with some deeper thought.

The righteous judgments of God are a wonderful mystery, hidden from the eyes of the world.  Such judgments are the very acts of God,  the very tribulations all so blessed and chosen by God, that we will all endure in our appointed time.

Psalm 19:9-11 The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
Yea, than much fine gold;
Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

God is good and is working all things for all of us to accomplish that for all men.  It will happen in the appointed times, in the ages to come.  Yet carnal minds will not trust in God nor understand His ways.

Psalm 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous

This verse will confuse those who see judgment as a bad thing and believe in this eternal hell doctrine that has orthodox Christianity bound in spiritual darkness.  It is good to stand in the judgment seat.  That is the only way one can be destroyed and surely die as a child of the devil.  God willing, I hope to share more of these mysteries when He leads me to share.  God rains down judgment on His House, His very Elect.  Every son He receives He scourges.  When will man begin to understand these mysteries?  Only when God reveals it to us.

HEB 12:6  For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth

Scourging is not good but it for our good in the end.  It is how the man that shall surely dies does die.  I am still amazed daily at the strong delusion that holds the multitudes in darkness and veils this glorious gospel.  It gives stronger credence to this well know verse.

ISA 55:8  For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.  So are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.

God’s ways including making us into new creations in a two step process.  God will use blessings and curses, anger, judgment, wrath, love, all of these things to bring about His good and perfect will in due season.  This is what true believers will come to trust and not in the strength of their flesh.  If you know how it all turns out, this blessed hope of salvation for all men,  then  the life you live now will no longer be lived for yourself but for Him who died and then rose again on your behalf.

JER 29:10-11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. 12 Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you.

Zechariah 1:7  Just as the Lord of hosts determined to do to us, According to our ways and according to our deeds, so He has dealt with us.

Here is another one of the “destruction” verses that carnal man thinks speaks of as evil but really speaks of salvation for all.  You Shall Surely Die and this death of the child of devil that we all are born is truly an awesome thing, more desirable than gold.

ISA 14:24-25 The Lord of hosts has sworn, saying,
“Surely, as I have thought, so it shall come to pass,
And as I have purposed, so it shall stand:
25 That I will break the Assyrian in My land,
And on My mountains tread him underfoot.
Then his yoke shall be removed from them,
And his burden removed from their shoulders

Hallelujah!  Our heavy burden and difficult yoke, will be removed from us in due time.  When God chooses and performs the work in each of us as already declared,  it shall come to pass.

I have said in comments that I have a new Bible.  While I do have a new Bible physically and literally, I have a new Bible primarily in that the words, that are all spirit and all life are now coming alive and confirming the wonderful plan God has for man.  I used to read passages like this from Lamentation and be sad because it about people being destroyed and going to an eternal hell.  But this was the work of God, destroying the carnal man, the child of the devil, which is HIS work and the work that will precede the new birth of the spiritual man that follows the earthy man (1 COR 15).

LAM 2:8  The Lord has purposed to destroy
The wall of the daughter of Zion.
He has stretched out a line;
He has not withdrawn His hand from destroying;
Therefore He has caused the rampart and wall to lament;
They languished together.

God’s True Witnesses

The only people that will actually believe the true gospel are those chosen by God to believe.  These will be the chosen few Elect that will preach this true gospel with much opposition from the religious crowd.

ACTS 13:48   When the Gentiles heard this, they were very glad and thanked the Lord for his message; and all who were chosen for eternal life became believers.

Psalm 4:3  But know that the Lord has set apart for Himself him who is godly

ACTS 2:47  And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved

The Father working through Jesus does indeed build His Church on His timing and in His way.  Man does not build it by their free will.

MAT 16:18  I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it

The religious crowd, of which I was an active participant in for many years, is called but not yet chosen.  I have learned to quit judging them knowing that they know not what they are doing, just as I did not know in my former ignorance.  But we just this gospel and let God deal with is as He indeed is over all His work.

ISA 43:10 “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen

After the resurrection of Christ,  He only appeared to those God had chosen in advance for Him to appear to.  It works the same way today my friends.

ACTS 10:41  Then God allowed him to appear, 41 not to the general public, but to us whom God had chosen in advance to be his witnesses.

In our appointed day,  the Lord will reveal Himself to us and if you are so blessed, your life will never be the same. The power of God is more than radical and will turn upside down, the life we once knew in the flesh.  The Jesus we once knew in the flesh, we will know no more.

2 COR 5:16-17    Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

I apologize for continuing to pile on these verses, but I wanted to put in one place many of those I have found.  This teaching is a huge part of bringing people out of spiritual darkness and God will use this somehow, someway to help somebody.  Paul was taught by revelation of Christ as all men are taught.  He certainly was not boasting.

GAL 1:15 But even before I was born, God chose me and called me by his marvelous grace.

I now know, that this is what happened to me.  It explains many things as I have lived a similar experience to what Paul did as will all of the chosen of God.  We will persecute the true church before we ourselves are rescued by the mercy of God.

Col 3:12 Since God chose you to be the holy people he loves, you must clothe yourselves with tenderhearted mercy, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience

I was one of the best or the worst offenders at rationalizing away the grace of God and promoting man’s self righteousness as the way of salvation.  But here is  Scripture that I now understand its power of destroying all such carnal reasoning.

Romans 11:5Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

Isaiah 65:9  I will bring forth descendants from Jacob, My elect shall inherit it, and My servants shall dwell there

I will end this post for now although it remains a work in process as God shows me more Scriptures that reveal and proclaim the mystery of His Sovereignty over all His works.  Our Father has put all things that are of God, which are all things, under the rulership of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Psalm 8:6  You make him to rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet

Jesus lamented over the rejection of Him by His people.  He was obedient to the Father and wish they could have known who He was.  But it was not written, it was not the Father’s plan to do it that way.  They were blinded as we saw earlier but this was for good as God used it to show mercy and ultimately mercy shall come to all men.

LUKE 19:41-42  Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes.

It is God’s will that all men come to repentance and be saved.   In the end, God gets His will.  It has already been written and this is the main point of this glorious gospel.  I do hope you will believe this good news and come to find the freedom and peace that it will bring.

1 TIM 4:10  For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11 These things command and teach.

When you come to understand that all things of our God.  You will be set free from the things that weigh down others in the dissipation’s of the world.

Sincere comments and emails welcome here or at peterjwilson56@gmail.com

Your brother in Christ,  PETE

related articles that speak to the lie of man having free will can be found here:

http://truthinscripture.com/2014/09/22/who-is-responsible-for-evil/

http://truthinscripture.com/2015/03/10/why-god-gave-commandments-without-free-will/

http://truthinscripture.com/2013/07/23/the-whosoever-will-gospel-of-faith/

6 thoughts on “God’s Sovereignty vs Man’s Free Will”

  1. Thank you for such a wonderful article. Words are hard to express for God to have gradually opened my eyes to the glorious doctrines of grace. I’m like you every time I read the word I see God’s sovereignty in all things even in my wrong choices and it brings great comfort to my soul.

  2. Ric, Jesus said a lot of things especially when you understand every word in the bible is a word Jesus spoke directly or through one of His prophets. Jesus said we don’t choose Him.

    Joh 15:16  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

    Jesus also said, that apart from Him we can do NOTHING.

    Joh 15:5  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 

    So what verse are we to believe? We are to believe ALL OF THEM. I hope you come to understand something and consider this answer I am taking time to give you very carefully. You are making a major mistake in properly dividing the Word. Are you going to pit this one verse that you seem to imply states man has a free will against the scores of Scriptures that state there is no free will? I believe that is what you are doing and it is an error that will ensure you do not have the truth.

    Psa 119:160  (ASV) The sum of thy word is truth; And every one of thy righteous ordinances endureth for ever.

    Taking SOME of the Word and making that the Truth and ignoring the rest is a sure recipe to be in error. Peter also tells us that no single scripture is to be taken as its own explanation.

    2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture at all is becoming its own [G2398] explanation

    The Greek word for ‘private,’ in this verse is ‘idios and comes from the Greek Word Strong’s numbers as #2398.’ This Greek word means ‘his own’ or ‘its own.’ Here are all the rendering of that word in the Bible as the King James Concordance shows.

    G2398
    ἴδιος
    idios
    Total KJV Occurrences: 112
    own, 76
    Mat_9:1, Mat_25:14, Mar_15:20, Luk_2:3, Luk_6:41, Luk_6:44, Luk_10:34, Joh_4:44, Joh_5:43, Joh_7:18, Joh_8:44, Joh_10:3-4 (2), Joh_10:12, Joh_13:1, Joh_15:19, Joh_16:32, Joh_19:27, Act_1:7, Act_1:25, Act_2:6, Act_2:8, Act_3:12, Act_4:23, Act_4:32, Act_13:36, Act_20:28, Act_25:19, Act_28:30, Rom_8:32, Rom_10:3, Rom_11:24, Rom_14:4-5 (2), 1Co_3:8 (2), 1Co_4:12, 1Co_6:18, 1Co_7:2, 1Co_7:4 (2), 1Co_7:37, 1Co_9:7, 1Co_11:21, 1Co_15:23, 1Co_15:38, Gal_6:5, Eph_5:22, Eph_5:24, Col_3:18, 1Th_2:14-15 (2), 1Th_4:11 (2), 1Ti_3:4-5 (2), 1Ti_3:12, 1Ti_5:8 (2), 1Ti_6:1, 2Ti_1:9, 2Ti_4:3, Tit_1:12, Tit_2:5, Tit_2:9, Heb_7:27, Heb_13:12 (2), Jas_1:14, 1Pe_3:1, 1Pe_3:5, 2Pe_2:22, 2Pe_3:3, 2Pe_3:16-17 (2), Jud_1:6
    privately, 8
    Mat_24:3, Mar_6:32, Mar_9:28, Mar_13:3, Luk_9:10, Luk_10:23, Act_23:19, Gal_2:2
    apart, 7
    Mat_14:13, Mat_14:23, Mat_17:1, Mat_17:19, Mat_20:17, Mar_6:31, Mar_9:2
    due, 4
    Gal_6:9, 1Ti_2:6, Tit_1:3, 1Pe_5:6
    your, 4
    Col_3:18, 1Th_2:14, 1Th_4:11 (2)
    home, 2
    Act_21:6, 1Ti_5:4
    proper, 2
    Act_1:19, 1Co_7:7
    acquaintance, 1
    Act_24:23
    alone, 1
    Mar_4:34
    aside, 1
    Mar_7:33
    business, 1
    1Th_4:11
    company, 1
    Act_4:23
    private, 1
    2Pe_1:20
    several, 1
    Mat_25:15
    severally, 1
    1Co_12:11
    thine, 1
    Luk_6:41

    Here are just a couple of the 76 verses where this word ‘idios’ appears and is translated properly as ITS OWN.

    Mat 9:1 And he entered into a ship, and passed over, and came into his own city.

    Mat 10:36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

    What Peter is telling us is that no scripture of prophecy is to be taken by itself to make a point or to establish a doctrine. There must always be other scriptural witnesses to any doctrine of scripture.

    Deu 19:15 …At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

    So when you come and see Matthew 23:37 and take that to mean man has a free will and they rejected Christ on their own free will, you are violating this rule of interpretation and making a doctrine out of one verse. This post and many others make clear that apart from Christ we can do nothing.

    Jer 10:23  O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. 

    I can’t make you believe or even see or hear the truth. All of those are GIVEN by the Lord to whom HE CHOOSES to give them.

    Mat 13:11  He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 

    Pro 20:12  The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them. 

    We have no free will to choose to hear the truth or even see it. That is 100% THE LORDS work in every man. He CAUSES the few to hear and He CAUSES everyone else to be blinded.

    Mat 13:13  Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 
    Mat 13:14  And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 

    Joh 12:39  Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, 
    Joh 12:40  He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. 

    Exo 4:11  And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD? 

    Until you are dragged to the Potter’s house, you won’t hear His words.

    Jer 18:2  Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words. 

    This blinding and opening of eyes and ears to a FEW, goes on to this very day.

    Rom 11:7  What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded 
    Rom 11:8  (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear😉 unto this day. 

    The passage you cite are words that every man shall live by, beginning with the true Jews, the Israel of God, His Elect in every age. All men first reject Christ and that by the design of the Potter. He has to make us willing and change us from being carnally minded and at enmity with the Lord.

    Mat 23:37  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 

    The good news is the most basic promise of God is the salvation of ALL MEN. All men will be returned to the Lord in the appointed time. Almighty God is certainly capable of making His will happen which is this.

    2Pe 3:9  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 

    1Co 15:22  For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive

    2Sa 14:14  For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God respect any person: yet doth he devise means, that his banished be not expelled from him. 

    Let me know what you think. I hope you come to appreciate and follow the SUM OF THY WORD IS TRUTH principal. It will keep one from many errors. Matthew 23:37 does not negate the many witnesses to truth expressed in this post. The truth remains that we do not direct our own steps. Whether we believe or not, are decieved or in the truth, it is ALL the Lord’ work as we are the works of His Hands.

    Isa 64:8  But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand

    Pete

  3. Jesus said, “How often I would have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but YOU were not willing.” (Matthew 23:37). If only these poor people knew that they COULD NOT choose because God had not “elected” them to salvation! What a pity!

  4. Hi Jessica, I can appreciate how hard it is to get over the free will hump. I am not offended by your question or doubt. Those chosen by the Lord and given to know the truth all have to deal with that issue, it is so engrained into our carnal minds. But I will only point you to the Scriptures and the Scriptures do not contradict. The SUM of them are true, no scripture can be used to contradict another.

    Psa 119:160 The sum of Your word is truth, (NOT SOME OF IT) And all of Your righteous ordinances are eonian

    2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture at all is becoming its own explanation

    As Peter says in his second epistle, it is the carnally minded who make this error to their own destruction.

    2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
    2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
    2Pe 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

    The SUM of the word makes it clear that the Lord is really truly the Potter and we really truly are pieces of clay in His hands. So few believe it.

    Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand. THE GOOD AND THE BAD. You see this life does have a purpose and this is what that purpose is:

    Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

    When we are told God works all things, we must learn to stop limiting God.

    Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

    2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

    Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

    ALL THINGS indeed means ALL THINGS, there is no exception and that includes evil things. Many are called but very few indeed are chosen and given to know and believe the Scriptures.

    God is all those things you cite. Loving, merciful, holy and righteous. But He is also sovereign and says He is causes all things, whether they be good or evil. The Lord works evil for good is a recurring theme over and over in Scripture. This does not make God evil because He is good, but uses evil to bring about much good in the end, in due time. The story of Joseph and his brothers doing evil towards him typifies Christ and our crucifying Christ.

    Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

    What is the most evil thing you can think of? It might be the horrible death of our Lord on the cross. Well guess who caused that?

    Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
    Act 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
    Act 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

    This evil as all things were ordained from the beginning. It is God’s plan, that is just how powerful and in complete control God and the Lord are.

    Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

    What happens always is the Lord’s will.

    You should read my post on who is responsible for evil if you have not done so. here is that link.

    http://truthinscripture.com/2014/09/22/who-is-responsible-for-evil/

    Faith is a gift from the Lord. With that faith comes ears to hear the truth and spiritual eyes to see. It must be given to us and it is given to so very few in this age. I hope you are granted mercy by the Lord to see the truth that free will is strong delusion that blinds the multitudes who see but see not and hear but hear not. These words and this parable explain it all.

    Mat 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
    Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
    Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
    Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
    Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
    Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
    Mat 13:15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
    Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
    Mat 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

    Your brother in Christ, PETE

  5. I agree with a lot of what is written in this blog. Despite the arguments presented here however, I think the paradox between free will and sovereignty still exists. One thing I know to be true about God is that he is Holy and righteous and loving and merciful. This blog states that God is sovereign and thus causes all things, reveals His truth to some, and deceives others. Well that idea changes the character of God, in that, he would not only allow deception or evil but would cause it. But God is Holy and righteous, no fault or flaw in Him. So to say He causes all things, I’m not so sure. I think he allows bad circumstances or evil to happen, but doesn’t cause them which would still mean He is sovereign. Nonetheless, there is only one answer for this discrepancy: free will. Additionally, if only sovereignty exists and free will does not then what is the purpose of grace? Christ’s reconciliation between God and Man wouldn’t be necessary. Please understand I am not trying to offend anyone. I’m no expert on these things just follower of Christ hungering to know more about the mysteries of God. As this article mentioned, He is a very, vast and powerful.

  6. This is a great nourishment and consolation to the soul of the elect and pilgrim in the wilderness of this world wherein are fiery serpents of false teachers and false doctrines. Blessed be God forever.

Sincere comments and questions are encouraged!