Discussion Archive Two
This is discussion board. It is a place to post comments, questions or prayer requests not specific to a particular post. The growing number of readers and commentators on this blog are likely to respond and we will edify and learn from each other and share our testimonies. All comments and replies are now automatically posted without any moderation. Let’s edify one another. Don’t be shy!!! We are here to serve one another in love, washing feet, pulling specks out of eyes and providing comfort and encouragement in these turbulent times.
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Archive One: May 2011 – August 6, 2011
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@Willc Hopefully folks will come see your comments if they look to the recent comments list on the right side of the webpages. But I see them all!! LOL. A little bit of good news is I found a way to not have to continue to archive comments and by using page breaks can just keep the current discussion going to inifinity without taking minutes to load the pages. Anyway, God bless and we will see you over on the Discussion board and get out of these archives.
okay, just kind of funny one. How did I end up over here in archive two? I click the post button, and suddenly see sister Lynns name in many posts, and I ‘m thinking, oh my how did I miss her posts? Here I’d just asked how she was doing, and there she is. But no, then i see these posts are almost two months old. eeek. Sorry about that. Hope someone laughted,love you all.
@Bill, Peace be to you brother. And thank you for sharing thiis link today for the video. It was very powerful message, and a good site for hearing the true word. Also, appreciate your sharing about the apocryapha books. And Mark too. Thank you Mark. It confirms what was in my spirit about this, that they are to be avoided. My wife and I are back in the gospels now, and feeling much more at peace and in His Will.
Sandra, thank you for sharing the psalms you do. These are breathed of His Holy Spirit, and are so healing and timely. Praise God from whom all blessings come!!!, He is always right on time! Sandra have you heard from Lynn, is she okay?
Randall, we are all in the furnace of affliction and chastening who lean on, trust in, and need the Lord so desperately in these later times. And these are easy days by comparison to what may soon be. “What times I am afraid, I will trust in thee oh God, let me never be ashamed.” God is so merciful and full of grace. I do not know what the peepers are that you mentioned, but i do know the hand of Big bro increases daily, and that in Christ’s kingdom every single shard of that oppression will melt with a fervent heat , gone forever so his lambs will be free. Every one of God’s people chose to be with His remnant, even to their own hurt, when they had hardships, Even Moses, he could have lived in the wealth of Egypt, but counting it as more honor to suffer with the people of God than to bask in ease and sin for a season. So it is in these days. We walk by faith, not by sight. It isn’t easy, but by His grace alone, we stand. Be blessed.
Be blessed all here, even those who peep or doubt or are not sure. Read His word anyway, and God’s love will show you the way, you will know it is the Lord Jesus Christ. He will and sup with you just as you are, and his goodness will lead you to repentance. His ways are not mans ways. I pray for all here that the Light of Christ will shine into and banish the darkness, bringing faith and belief. Love to all
Dear Sister Sandra,
When I read your post tears welled up from my heart I need to thank the Lord for the answered prayers I have received in this forum and I need to thank Karen for the persuading to come back for the fellowship, for I have missed you all alot I know of the passages you speak of I will admit I was uneasy about stating these happenings in my life for I am dealing with a lifetime of ridicule from others and ever since have kept them to my self for a very long time, I have dealt finally with my ego and felt it was time to reveal these things why I don’t know but I have been praying on them for some time now and felt it was time to speak up, as I took this as a answer by the Holy Spirit….to do so….most my life I always felt like the one looking in from the outside and now I am very comfortable with this for Jesus felt it first…I am still working on it with Gods help…I feel as if a large burden has been lifted and I can breathe do you know what I mean?…thankyou Sandra
Love in Christ Lynn
Thats exactly it Sandra. That Truth’s been etched in me for years.In light of that scripture, I’d rather refer to mine as visions.
Sister Lynn: Glad I could help. Here is a scripture that may help you find the answer you are looking for:
JOEL 2:28&29
AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS AFTERWARD, THAT I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS, YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS.
29) AND ALSO UPON THE SERVANTS AND UPON THE HANDMAIDS IN THOSE DAYS WILL I POUR OUT MY SPIRIT.
So, yes I believe that the Lord will reveal through dreams, things that He wants us to know. Remember Joseph, how in a dream it was revealed that the Child was the Son of God, and that he was not to fear in taking Mary for his wife. Then there was the Joseph who was sold into slavery by his brothers, and ofcourse there was John the Revelator. The Lord reveals to those who seek Him with a pure heart, His sheep hear His voice.
Be at peace, and continue walking in the Lord, and know that you are loved.
God bless, With Love in Christ Jesus, Sandra
Hello Brother Bill,
Thank you for the warm welcoming back, I have missed you all alot, and I am glad to be back,….I feel at peace with-in a feeling I haven’t had for quiet awhile….so how have you been? I will be going to the new discussion posting soon for I posted on the old one #2 I didn’t know it was changed from #2 to the new one till just recent lol….talk to you soon Love in Christ Jesus Lynn
Greetings to you sister Lynn, Praise the Lord God is Almighty, I love you and we are all in one accord daily with singleness of heart, gathered together in one flock under one King, one High Priest, in One House.
Mighty and powerfull be His name Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords
Keep Jesus love and give it to others
Bill
Blessings to you Mark
For I fully understand what you say…I have always questioned why me why are you giving this to me God…I am no one special for I always felt only someone special would have the ability to have this privilege given to them, after all I am nothing but a repenting sinner and do not deserve such a privilege as such I deserve nothing what so ever and still don’t …however I am so grateful to our Lord for His forgiveness and most of all His GRACE and LOVE…..I too am beginning to see what the dreams I have had are about and I do believe they are similar to what yours were about due to some circumstances that have occurred in my life recently over the past couple of years..everything does start to make sense when God wants us to know things in His time table, don’t’ you agree? Thank you Mark it seems we have alot in common I am still learning though and still have alot to learn…I will say though Mark what I saw in living life I can not dismiss I know they were real….and I know they meant no harm, I can not explain them or why they would not stay long enough to stay but I do know they were real….Love in Christ Lynn
Lynn, The recurring dream/nightmare I had as a 4-6 year old was this:It was one of those technacolor,larger than life dreams,the ones that wake you up. I was in this 4 walled room, no doors, no windows no escape. There was this thing, somewhat like a big roll of carpet rolling towards me. It was from wall to wall,10 times taller than me with absolutely no possibility to escape. It was about half way across the room and comming and the terror of it was, the certain inevitability of it. I would wake up just shook.This happened maybe 2-3 times a year for 2-3 years. I’m 59 and didn’t understand till recently what it meant. The Lord’s shown me that it was a telling in advance, even though I did not get the understanding till after,still it was that catholic doctrine fixin ta overtake/pass through. I was helpless, it was gonna happen.In His mercy and goodness He has shown me the deception of the RRC and much more.Thanks for risking talking about dreams. They are an important part of my walk and communion. We are truly blessed and set apart to have this form of communication/understanding with the living God of the ages.To Him be the glory and thanksgiving always.
Hello Brother Bill,
The things I have been praying on in discussion #2 I have been doing for awhile now for I do take the Bible and God very seriously…I know in my heart and spirit that God has given me my answers I have been seeking…some things that were coming in to my life did not feel right, but discerning them was becoming uneasy then I finally wrote to Karen and decided to come back to the forum here for the fellowship and answers….for the leading of the Holy Spirit I felt was pushing me ever so gently to come back…so here I am….I have missed the fellowship when I left the forum there was to much bickering going on and this was one thing I did not want to get tied up in or on…If you have gone and read my recent posts on discussions#2 I had my own issues that I was dealing with and praying on and was unable to deal with it all but I am back and I am glad I did, I have missed you all very much I still have alot of questions and sharing to do with you all and learning to do…I do believe one never can stop learning I don’t believe one is suppose to….thank you Bill….I wish I could explain the inner peace I have right now from all that have so far given me their in put on discussion #2 so far…..Love in Christ Lynn
@ Pete, Man all I can say is amen. I just wanted to hold it to the touchstone of the Spirit, and you confirmed my understanding. Praise God.I’m being built up more in the confidence of the Lord and His revelations.If I was asked what you’d answer, my words would have been so close to what you wrote, you’d just knowingly smile, as I did upon reading yours.I see all the lies that are poured out being drank up by those who dwell on the earth. From the lies about what God says[false prophets] to the tales spun by the sooth sayer priest&magicians like; you have terminal cancer, you are bi-polar, smoking causes cancer,knock on wood, I’ve got my fingers crossed, all those words of unbelief and so many more. A ton of this worldly deception is in the churches.Like God’s lost some of His power in these modern days so now he “works through doctors”. The medical thing is so ingrained;the government, the churches, schools. And that’s just one deception of many, that seeing, is a sign for believers. Anyway, thanks for confirming. Peace
Here is a email link I received today by someone I know who is tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine.
Here is a classic example of how satan will throw the kitchen sink at you. Taking a good thing like a back massage, and using it for a door to invoke you with evil spirits and doctrines of devils in thier institutions. They do the same thing with yoga excersises, many people who have started out with simple yoga exercises have gone full blown into Hinduism.
This institution is closey connected with the Waldorph school of mind controll, which is from the pit of hell. But it looks so NICE on the surfice. By the way; one will not find the word “nice” in the KJB. Nice can mean anything that seems to be a good thing in mans imagination. Same as the “right to persue happiness” all just a play on words.
http://www.massageinschoolsassociation.org.uk/index.php?massageinschools
agape
Bill..
Hello Brother Pete,
I am confused by your comment…@I see Rev 12:16 as saying the worldly people and those not of Jesus’ kingdom help the true Ekklessia (church) by drinking up all the deception poured out of the dragons mouth. So in some way, it brings confirmation we are the Lord’s by the contrast of our interests from their interests. We see them drinking it up and it is by this we know we are a strange bunch, not partaking in the same. In the prior verses 12:15, I see that speaking of the fact the end comes like a flood, a flood of false words, but we the people of God are protected and kept from being swept away. We are in CHRIST, the spiritual ARK of the last days…..Please explain for me…thankyou Love in Christ Lynn
Hello Brother Mark,
I understand your comment on seeing what your dreams are about for it has only been recent that I am able to understand some of the dreams I have had especially the ones of the horizon and the knots, for I have prayed on them for many years but then i was not to know the knowledge of them but they are coming about with Godly wisdom, but they are not fully understandable to me as yet but it is becoming more and more clearer as I pray on them I am sure in time the full reason of the dreams will be enlightened to me but right now just isn’t the time, I suppose….I am also glad that you also spoke of dreams of your own of such…thank you for that to because it helps to know that some one else is understanding what I am experiencing…other then blood family….the answers I have gotten on these postings I have been praying on for quiet some time and I am less stressed on them now so I know they are good answers and witnessed by the Holy Spirit…thankyou Mark…Your sister In Christ Lynn
Yes Lynn, I had archived old comments in a seperate section and the DISCUSSION tab that appears on the blog page at the top is now the 3rd archive. A direct link to it is below.
http://truthinscripture.com/discussion-3/
I believe I found a way to fix the problem so I will not have to archive them going forward anymore. But your post on the aliens appeared in the old “discussion” page which is archive #2. That direct link is below but it also has a link on DISCUSSION page to the 2nd and the 1st archive. I say this because only someone fishing thru the recent comments list on the right side of the blog would notice your comment. To receive comments automatically from the current discussion, you will need to rescubscribe to the new discussion-3 page. Sorry for the confusion, it is hard to explain. This is the link to the old discussion page where your recent comments are appearing.
http://truthinscripture.com/discussion-3/discussion-2/
Hello Brother Bill,
I tend to believe what you say about the media and will take it under advisement…for I do find when I just take to reading or spending time in Mother nature I am less stressed and happy and content thank you I am studying Galatians and Corinthians at this time so don’t watch to much T.V. but evidently to much so I thank you again for your comment and will back off of it…I have been seeking guidance on that too you I believe had my answer for that God Bless!…love Lynn
Hello Pete,
I noticed you mad a comment about being in discussion#2 @MARK not sure how we got comments going back over here in Archive #2 are we not posting in this area? for I am confused about your comment please advice and tell me where we are to post please thankyou….Love Lynn
Hello again Sandra,
another time at the same house my husband and I occupied we were asleep for the night we also had 3 dogs none which barked at the door being knocked on which woke me up I went to the door did not open it but asked the man standing there what he wanted he never answered me but stood directly under the porch light and had no face he wore a camel tan over coat and hat and gloves and just stood there, I went to get my husband and we looked out the front windows and saw him leaving never saw him again either but my husband saw him as well as I did….also when I was working at a nursing home we had a woman who was dieing as the head nurse was going to call the family and her physician I stayed with the elderly lady and held her hand as she was in much pain and I felt she needed me there this woman sat straight up in bed at the moment (she was a weak woman) and looked past me as she did there was a definite bright light behind me there was no lights on behind me this was a spiritual light I wanted to turn around and see it but was unable to do so I just kept looking in the face of this elderly lady still holding her hand she smiled and said “JESUS” and reached her other hand out and at that moment the hair rose on my arms and all over the feeling I received was actually indescribable and then she laid back down and passed away I felt her leave her body at that moment…I noticed at that time it was once more dark in that room except for the over head light over her bed ….I know this will seem odd to many but I know what I saw and what I felt….I have 2 other brothers who also have visions very similar as these my older sister who passed away at 42 also had this gift…I know I am not crazy, and was never afraid of any of these visions and have prayed on them and I found I am at peace with them all….I also have a recurring dream that I have had since I was very very young and it is about a void place just a horizon that never ends the colors are bright but are only silver and white it spans the entire spectrum of the vision the other dream is a spectrum of knot like balls coming at me in the dream but never touch me but go by me they are continuous and they go no where and seem to be coming from no where I have these dreams over and over thru out my years I am now 58, again I fear them not…..It is very difficult to talk to others about such things and there for I usually don’t! but I have learned over the years not to concern myself to much with what other people who are skeptical have to say…I feel safe in this group there for I am sharing these things with you all and would like to know if any one else have had similar things happen to them for I pray on these things for the guidance of the Holy Spirit to help me understand these things just maybe there is someone here who I am being lead to for those answers….BTW…I am a strong believer in God and in Jesus who is my savior I belong to no religion for I do not accept any man made religion I am spiritual….also I know things that are gonna happen before they happen I can see where trends of things are going and they do get there…Love In Christ Lynn
Hello Sister Sandra,
I want to tell you how helpful you have been in your response to my posting about aliens deep down I had my reservations about it and the first thought as I watched it I felt the Holy Spirit natch me within and became uneasy about it…..so having clarification and praying to God on it I am sure now that God is answering long prayers on it thru this group..as for my visions they are all good and biblical I sense evil and I am able to see in other realms like another dimension I am still praying on this as like discerning it with God…for I trust His word first and have found His answers can come from people like you and other strong believers in Gods word…for instance when I was 9 or 10 I was leaving my Mommas house to walk to school and at her front door I was saying good bye and turned my head to the road that intersect ours down the street and was amazed at what I saw and as I turned to tell and question my Momma about it it went away, prior to that what I saw was everything was in it s normal color but there was this old car and a man inside driving it the odd thing about it was this vision was in shades of grey’s and he was looking directly at me!! I never saw that ever again….another vision was me my older sister and Momma were at a clothing store my sister and Momma were looking at the clothes on the rack and I was just looking around my eyes were drawn to an area and I saw my Fathers Mom ( who had passed away at that point) and she was smiling at me as I turned to get my sister ad Mommas attention to tell them we looked and she was gone….another time I was married by then and in the bedroom making the bed and out of the blue in the upper corner of the bedroom behind me I heard my grandmother call my name not paying much attention to any of it I said what grand mom, and then realizing what I just did ran out of the room and went to my husband shaking, told him what happened and he said all would be ok….later I told my grandmother to go to the light and that I forgive her (her and I did not get along), I never heard from her again!…..and there were many more things I would like to share with you all but I am not sure all of this will be posted for it is long so I will send this and continue in another post…Love Lynn
@MARK not sure how we got comments going back over here in Archive #2 so I hope people will see your question and Lynn’s on the dreams. I see Rev 12:16 as saying the worldly people and those not of Jesus’ kingdom help the true Ekklessia (church) by drinking up all the deception poured out of the dragons mouth. So in some way, it brings confirmation we are the Lord’s by the contrast of our interests from their interests. We see them drinking it up and it is by this we know we are a strange bunch, not partaking in the same. In the prior verses 12:15, I see that speaking of the fact the end comes like a flood, a flood of false words, but we the people of God are protected and kept from being swept away. We are in CHRIST, the spiritual ARK of the last days.
Saints of Israel, Peace. I have my own spiritual inclination, but those of you who see, how do you see, ‘the earth drinking up the river and helping the woman’,as in:Rev12:16? Thank you. Love your neighbor
By grace I no longer eat of television. I testify as Bill, the truth is not there. I hold dearly the giving of my Lord in my dreams. Thank you for asking about dreams Lynn as they’re critical in my walk and I beleive very important today. Just like thoughts, we need to discern where they’re from.Over the years I’ve had many. I had my first as a child of 4-5 and did not understand it till just recently. It recurred over 3-4 years and was more of what the world calls a “nightmare”.I never forgot it. These days I usually get the understanding that same morning.My dreams are more plentiful now, than just a few years ago. This is one way my Lord shows and teaches me.Twice I’ve been given words to deliver others.That’s not my favorite place to be in,but the Lord uses’rememberance’ to motivate to obedience.I could go on and on about dreams. I would say be sensitive to them and discern the orgin.As far as the rest of it,all this spectacular,hollywood stuff is disipation, a consumption of test time. Eyes on the Prize. Love,Mark
All media and television are controlled by Rupert Murdoch and are mind control agents.
The truth is not in them. They are throwing every form of deception at the masses encluding the kitchen sink. The puropse is to maintain a state of continuous confusion .
It used to be ferries and lepricaons centuries ago. Still the same witchcraft only now on steroids.
Keep Jesus and forget everything else
Bill
@Lynn, Hi! how have you been? you have been in our prayers, welcome back.
I was about to shut down for the night, and I always check the site before I go to sleep.
I really don’t know what to say to your question about “aliens”, I try to stay away from that sort of thing. The Bible says that in the latter times that dreams and visions will be given, and the Bible is the Word of God. However, I personally believe that all of the alien stuff is just a decoy to turn our attention away from Jesus. However, I do believe that dreams, and visions are given to some, we all dream, but we need to be careful on how we percieve those dreams. I recieved one recently about how improtant it was for all to be dilegantly watching for the Lord’s return, and this I believe, for I know He will come soon. I am 1/2 Cherokee, but was never around any of the tribes, what little I know came from my Grandmother who was full blooded Cherokee. I do know that Native Americans are really big on dreams, and visions, it is part of their heritage. Just remember that everything is in God’s hands, and He will reveal what is needed in His time, read His word, and follow Him daily, Love Him, and trust in Him, He will not forsake you.
It is good to hear from you again.
God bless, With Love in Christ Jesus, Sandra
Goodnight all!
Hello Everyone…Blessings to all,
…I have been watching the ancient aliens programs on t.v…..and they started to make me wonder about the beyond realm….and also statements of people who claim they have died and came back from the other side I have had many things happen to me ever since I was 7 years old nothing bad…I have visions and when I was working at a nursing home many things happened and I believe there is surely something there when we die so alot of what those who claim they have seen a taste of the other side are real…My Grandmother also had visions…I have been told I am clairvoyant…and I have always thought there is more to the word of God then what we read in the Bible (the Bible is the inspired word of God yes I do believe in that ) but there is more to it…Please don’t think me crazy or off my rocker for I know what I am speaking of….I also see another dimension at times not a bad one either….I am a Native American of the Choctaw tribe very close relative to the Cherokee tribe…and I attribute these things to my up bringing and elders teachings…any way this is why I have been gone for awhile I have done alot of praying and talking to God and praying on the many things I have been seeing….I would like to ask all of you what you think of the thoughts on the ancient aliens theory? your opinions are very much appreciated….Love Lynn
@Lynn That is a mark of a true Christian. Despite all the trials, tribulation, and even peresecutions, WE STILL LOVE
Hello Sandra. Good to see you being here to bring good cheer to all. Tell Randall we miss him and don’t be a stranger. Peace and love to you and yours.
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.Col 3:22-24 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 1 Thess 2:4 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Gal 1:10 The integrity of the upright shall guide them. Proverbs 11:3 And if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, in integrity of heart, and in uprightness, to do according to all that I have commanded thee, and wilt keep my statutes and my judgments: Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel for ever. 1 Kings 9:4-5 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. Romans 14:17-18
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. James 2:8-9 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you. Eph 4:32 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:15
If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 1 Peter 4:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing. 1 Peter 3: 14-17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. Romans 12:17
SISTER LYNN, SO GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN IN MINE, AND RANDALL’S PRAYRS DAILY. IT IS REALLY GOOD TO READ YOUR POST AGAIN, AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL WITH US. I AM NOT SURE EITHER, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS MOTHER TERESA ALSO. VERY WISE WORDS, NO MATTER THE SITUATION WE NEED TO HAVE A FORGIVING, AND UNDERSTANDING HEART. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK. MAY THE PEACE THAT ONLY JESUS CAN GIVE BE WITH YOU.
GOD BLESS, YOUR SISTER IN CHRIST JESUS, SANDRA
How are you sister Lynn. I am still praying for you. Be steadfast in faith of our Lord Jesus. The conclusion of the whole matter is this: Fear God and keep His commands. We live to please God Whose eyes are over all the earth beholding the good and evil, that He might recompense every man according to his work. Look no more to the flesh. Only look to Jesus to serve Him. He is enough and will succour.
Hello Everyone and Blessings,
I thought I would pop in and say hi and share this with you all It had alot of deep feeling for me and at the same time it made me feel peace I hope it will do the same for all of you…
“People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-centered; Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives; Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies; Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you; Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight; Build anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous; Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow; Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough; Give the world the best you’ve got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis it is between you and God; It was never between you and them anyway.”…. I forget the original author it my have been Mother Teresa but not sure any way enjoy…
Love in Christ Lynn
Another good word from Alistair Begg:
Objects of Divine Satisfaction
He has blessed us in the beloved.
Ephesians 1:6
What a state of privilege! It includes our justification before God, but the term “blessed” in the Greek means more than that. It signifies that we are the objects of divine satisfaction, even of divine delight. How marvelous that we-worms, mortals, sinners-should be made the objects of divine love!
But it is only “in the Beloved.” Some Christians seem to be accepted in their own experience-at least that is their apprehension. When their spirit is lively and their hopes bright, they think God accepts them, for they feel so high, so heavenly-minded, so drawn above the earth! But when their souls cleave to the dust, they are the victims of the fear that they are no longer accepted. If they could only see that all their high joys do not exalt them, and all their low despondencies do not really depress them in their Father’s sight, but that they stand accepted in One who never alters. This One is always the beloved of God, always perfect, always without spot or wrinkle or any such thing. How much happier they would be, and how much more they would honor the Savior if they could grasp Him!
Rejoice then, believer, in this: You are blessed “in the Beloved.” You look within, and you say, “There is nothing acceptable here!” But look at Christ, and see if everything is not acceptable there. Your sins trouble you; but God has cast your sins behind His back, and you are accepted and blessed in the Righteous One. You have to fight with corruption and wrestle with temptation, but you are already accepted in Him who has overcome the powers of evil. The devil tempts you, but be of good cheer-he cannot destroy you, for you are accepted in Him who has broken Satan’s head.
Know by full assurance your glorious standing. Even glorified souls are not more accepted than you are. They are only blessed in heaven “in the Beloved,” and you are even now blessed in Christ after the same manner.
Shannon, you and your husband hit the nail on the head. When in doubt, remember this scripture:
Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose
Trust Me in all things, and don’t worry. Even when things are undone and seem chaotic, I am with you. I will lead you in the path of righteousness, and establish you on the road to destiny. When the world around you is inconsistent and unreliable, I am your place of stability. I will not leave you nor forsake you. I will remain faithful and perform My word, says the Lord.
Thank you Emilio.
My husband and i were talking about how sometimes we worry about which way to go,and are we doing Gods will .
I know when we were in church I sure did, which it was an eyeopener . I was always like ” I dont know what to do ,should I be the worshipleader , or shouldnt I , does God want me here or not .I loved singing and praising the Lord and i believe He lead me through those places but it was so exhausting taking care of a family and doing every thing we though we were suppose to do it was a burden which in turn lead us to the truth.
then after a little while ,I find my self saying what do I do Lord again for I have struggled in the same area of what is permissible and what is not which I am just now reminded of that scripture,not every thing is beneficial ,
that’s what caught my attention this morning when my husband Gary shared this scripture in john 14
the disciple were worried about which way to go ,Jesus said ..I am the way
if we are His sheep we know His voice and will not follow another.
I believe this does take time to learn His voice, but I do think we can hear the holy spirit and need to become sensitive to Him and learn to recognize when He is telling us something and obey it .when the time is right we will be convicted in what needs to be changed.
1 Corinthians 3
10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. 11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work. 14 If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
may the grace of our Lord be with you,
with love ,shannon.
Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy , your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Matt 1:4 Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest , I am rich, and increased with goods , and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich ; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed , and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear ; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see . As many as I love , I rebuke and chasten : be zealous therefore, and repent.
Ez. 22:26 …..they do not distinguish between the holy and the common; they teach that there is no difference between the unclean and the clean;
This is what holiness is all about distinguishing things that can defile us. They are part of the world and we know who runs the world. Worrying about the world is looking back, remember Lot’s wife.
Matt 11:15 He that hath ears to hear , let him hear . 16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows, 17 And saying , We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced ; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented.
1 Cor 9:24-25, 2 Tim 2:3-5, Luk 13:24, 14:26, Matt 19:29
Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
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Romans 14: 5, 22-23 Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth . And he that doubteth is damned if he eat , because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
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2 Timothy 2:20-21 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work.
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Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.
Matt 1:1-4 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
We will stand before the Judgment seat of God. For every word we shall give account. For every work we shall be judged. Will our deeds commend us on that day? Let us sow to the spirit that we may reap everlasting life.
I do understand where you’re coming from Pete. We are unique in our experiences and relationships with the Lord. I just feel a caution in my spirit regarding our tendency to spend too much time looking at ourselves. We need to trust Christ more in His ability to purge us of all that hinders Him – and rest in Him. Your concerns have also been my concerns – and I think all those who love the Lord and dwell with Him struggle with those concerns too. But I also have found that when I get all worked up about being right with God – He steps back into the shadows. We need to be where people are. How much time do you spend surfing the net? How does this compare with watching a decent show on TV or a presidential debate? You know, we need to be involved with this life in the world. God can and does sometimes work changes through us!
@Barb – thanks you for such a edifying comment. God took the love of many worldly things out of my heart, like the TV thing. I just lost my desire to want to watch. The anti TV and judgmental spirit came about as pride if not totally torn out of our hearts can grow secretly, even spiritual pride and the result is you become a self righteous Pharisee. This is the lesson I have learned by His grace this past summer. I think I have been a much better writer on speaking truth than actually living it. A modern day Pharisee depends on his own good works and deeds for his salvation and not the sacrifice of Jesus. So many are being led astray and following/listening to people teaching obedience (which is good) but elevate that as a work and not a fruit of salvation. Self righteousness is a big problem for many that are coming out of Babylon. You get out of one pit and fall into another. Personally I realized I was self abasing my life, putting on forms of godliness (i.e not watch TV, take no vacation, have no fun, judge everything and everyone) but inwardly I had a problem with pride that had to be cleared off the land. My ability to love people has vastly improved once I got clear on this and the more I trust in Jesus. Of course our freedom in Christ is no license to sin, which we darn well better hate as evidence of the indwelling Spirit of God. I am examining my motives and judging myself to make sure I am in the faith. Commentary and exchanges like this one I find very helpful. I have paid no attention to the debate but I reckon I should have a little bit of clue who has a brain and who does not!
Bill and Pete – maybe you worry a bit too much regarding your holiness. When I get tied up in knots like that – whatamIgonnado-whaamigonado – I am reminded that my heart is inhabited by the Lord – He in me/me in Him. He has a plan for every obstacle we may encounter, but He doesn’t give us what we need in the moment until the moment gets here. lol. We are in the world for His good reason. We are to be here to be used by Him – and Pete, who told you that you couldn’t watch TV now and then? Why do you think He wouldn’t want you to live in a nice bit house? Those things only become sin when we make them idols. I think the worst kind of witnessing sometimes come from people who feel they need to remove themselves from the population and look a certain way. What souls need to see is Christ in us – Him – not us imitating what we think He would be doing. Trust Him to be there when you need grace to be honest, or give up your job due to integity (perhaps there is something better He has in mind). None of us will always get it all right all of the time. But if we are spending quality time with the Lord and whole heartedly desiring to be right with Him – He will see us through. Just don’t worry so much you guys! When we are in worry and fear, we are out of faith. By the way, a presidential debate is going on right now and I recommend watching it.
@ Thanks Pete I will pray and meditate on this for more understanding.
Agape
Bill
@Shannon Great Scripture to have written on our lips to remind us when trouble comes. Blessed are they who believe and do not see. We love you Lord even though we do not see you. We will follow you.
@Bill This is exactly the area I am still being tossed around on. What does it mean to foresake the world literally and specifically for me or you? I think the foresaking is in the heart not in the physical. That is why we are in the world but not of the world. Having awoken to my apostasy and spiritual deadnesss already living in a big house, I have struggled with guilt and condemnation over this. But I realized that was not of God but a religious spirit promoting dead works and self righteousness that would lead me into becoming an evil judge and condemner of hearts. I am still seeking wisdom on the right balance and making sure I enjoy life and love others, yet do not let the world capture my heart. (1 John 2:15 is a scary verse). I fear and tremble at getting this wrong as I am well aware of the scriptures on strong delusion given to all who love unrighteousness. Like you it remains a quandry to some extent but I am against those that have made up many rules about do this or don’t do that or else you are sinning against God. I watch a wee bit of TV once in a while. I might see a move once a year and I have walked out upon conviction. I do enjoy a glass of wine or two. I love coffee. I like to eat….. Yet some will tell us do this and you sin. That is self righteousness and religious spirits at work. Babylon is surrounded on ALL sides. The offerings of Cain, the works of his hands were rejected by God.
1 COR 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
I think one can sell used cars and be in the will of God. They would likely not be as successful as they could be unless they lied like most. Some of buyers are drawn to and have discernment of honest and sincere people although we frequently do get hoodwinked. I think many of us get tested in our jobs often, no matter what they are. Steve Lumbly who runs apostasywatch.com is a used car salesmen I believe. If a christian teacher said she would not teach evolution without offering Intelligent Design, sadly she would be fired in most places. I am tempted daily to lie, steal or cheat in my line of work. In a position of trust you can readily get away it with men but not with God. That is one difference between the old me and who I am in Jesus today. The old me could would have considered it “smart” and “clever”, the new me could not sleep. The old me would call it embellishing the truth, the new me would call it lying. I praise Him for giving me His Spirit and beginning the good work in me as otherwise I would be a greedy lying business man that would do anything for more power, control and money. Amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me……
Barb thanks for your words of encouragement this day.
Be blessed in Him
Bill
@ Pete, thanks for your balanced teaching, I always have respect for your understanding in matters. I have been really strugeling with how to live and take part of a whole system that is corupted. The issue of being in the world but not of the world has me sometimes in a quandry, I need some help in understanding this matter.
For example how can one be a salesman without being a deceiver, I woukd say their are some exceptions but not many, or be a teacher in school teaching lies to children about evolution etc. I am really grappeling with these concepts.
keep Jesus love and give it to others
Bill
@Bill Robert is a good man and is on fire for God. This is a good message of forsaking the world yet I think he goes to far into self righteousness in this video. The gospel is one of the heart and what has our heart and mind. We should pray daily and often but praying all night is not what makes us acceptable to God. God will bring us all thru the wilderness to test us. ISA 48:1, Exodus 20:20, 1 Peter 4:12, etc. People have to eat, they have to work and in this day and age in this country, that typically requires an education. Obviously God can do anything and sends His people many places like John the Baptist. God uses educated men and the uneducated both. My youngest son just started college and I can tell you has a heart for the Lord and ministers to the rejected no matter where he is, even at college. Sure that system is corrupted but so is this entire world which we live. Robert is spot on that without Jesus we have nothing but If we start condemning people in school, where do we draw the line? 8th grade? 12th grade? Graduate Degree? What does it really mean to deny yourself? Many would take this to mean, you can’t have any fun or enjoy any of the beauty and blessings God has created and given to us.
John 14
Jesus Comforts His Disciples
1 “Do not let your heart be troubled;believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And you know the way where I am going.” 5 Thomas *said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
Oneness with the Father
7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
serpent, beast,—-2 factions of evil –2 parts cut off
Adam & Eve ———————–2 witnesses
Notice God questioned Adam and Eve, but He did not bother to question the serpent the beast.
Anything with out the Spirit of Christ in it is a dead body. Man is the temple of God where the Holy Spirit resides, with out the Spirit that man is already a walking dead corpse. Jesus said; let the dead bury the dead. And you, being dead in your sins.
On an individual layer of Babylon the spirit of the serpent manifests in mans soul, and that man becomes the image of the beast. (that man of sin be revealed) (mark of the beast) these are the tares that become black. Judas was finally exposed in the garden to the disciples a a blackened tare AFTER his falling away.
The world
These 2 factions of evil also manifests in the triune matrix of everything that man builds only it becomes 3 parts cut off because it is none of Gods Spirit.. “IE” (goals, builders, and climbers) The world political beast Babylon is a dead corps infested with the spirit of Satan. The world Corp. Church of all religions (Mystery Babylon) is a collective dead body manifested of the spirit of Satan, educational system is a dead Freudian Corps. These are dead body’s manifested through the collectivity of man indwelled with the spirit of Satan driven by the economic merchandising love of money blood system. These are all Corporate dead bodie Zombie Corporation bodies made up of free masonic flags, treaties, lawyers, contracts, board of directors, administrators, drowns etc (its all nothing more than lipstick on a pig). They are not built upon the Rock, but rather the shifting sands of mans imagination, doomed to fail (when structures collapse)
Anything not of the Spirit of God is consumed in fervent heat along with the heavens and earth.
Now the good news; Jesus Christ died for our salvation and all that turn to him through repentace and make covenant will Him will of be gathered into His ARK when all the other structures collapse world wide.
Agape
Bill
Acts 2:17-19a And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, that I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your young men shall see visions, your old men shall dream dreams. And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; and they shall prophesy. I will show wonders in heaven above and signs in the earth beneath.
Be at peace Randall, and all you out threre who worship the Lord in spirit and in truth. I sense the Lord telling me this morning – reaffirming perhaps – that we live in a new day. While each of us is unique in His eyes, and in each relationship with Him, we need to be aware that He will be stripping down religious strongholds now – and all that is of a worldly (carnal) nature will be taken down, as He brings us together in His Body as the remnant (Body parts) He has created us to be. Be aware that traditions and religious behavior may go and His desire is to unite us into a walking, talking, blessing, touching, healing, setting free – body that is filled with the power of His presense and Spirit. We are His temple.
Have a good day – cold here in the Keweenaw and the goldens (Randall call our retrievers goldens) are calling to be out there.
@Randall I do not know your circumstances but know that you will be missed my brother in Christ. You have encouraged me and others as well and have helped me see some issues in my walk and have demonstrated the love of Christ to the brethren. That is what washing feet is all about. Sanctify the congregation. Thank you Randall. You are always welcome here, your input is always appreciated and full of thoughtfulness. Whether you come again or not, I am with you in Spirit. I have your email so I want to be able to contact you. If it changes with the move please let me know. May the Lord bless you and yours and keep you in the days ahead. God Bless.
Brother Randall, God will undertake for everything that you have committed unto Him. Trust Him with all your heart and pray always to do His will. Remember Psalm 23:1.
To all lambs of the Lord. It saddens me to know this may be my last writing.
Tommorrow, Lord willing, tomorrow my moving will be done .
The computer is the last item to be moved. I did this so i , if by chance ,
cannot get the upgrades needed, i could at least come and say goodbye.
Again i am sorry to any i used non edifying words on.
All that we do should be in Love. Warning, teaching , etc.
Now, that i may lose contact it saddens me, that i did not always behave
as i should. When faced with the possiblibty of not being able to keep in touch,
i feel this sadness. Though i know , no matter where i go……I am not alone.
For God is with me. Thank you Emelio , for your words of kindness.
I am both joyed and grateful to have known you all.
Lord willing , maybe i will be able to communicate again with you all.
If not, my prayer and hope is that we all grow in Grace. In Gods Love
one towards another. And always do all we do with Love, by the Grace of God
shed upon our hearts.
Paul, i know, Barbs does look very young, Her mother still lives and is 96.
My hope and prayer for all , is that the ones still here, after i am gone,
will do all they do with love filled hearts, as we await the coming of the Lord.
I shall miss you all very much, but the love i have for you all , will remain
engraved on my heart by the Holy Ghost.
Lord willing i may be able to come say goodbye tomorrow, if not,
I love you all. May the Grace of God be poured upon all.
And wherever He leads , may we all follow in Him.
Blessed be the name of the Lord, blessed be His Holy Name.