Why Serve Christ if All Will Be Saved Anyway?
Jesus Christ is the Savior of the entire world. This is certain and salvation is assured for all of God’s creation, it is only a matter of God’s appointed times and sequences to bring this blessed hope to fruition. The following is a post written by a true brother in Christ and is shared here for the edification of all the saints who have been given ears to hear. This post will address a common objection carnal man has to this glorious gospel of good news for all.
1 TIM 4:10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of ALL men, especially of those who believe. 11 These things command and teach.
I get this question all the time on why we would obey God if all men are saved. But to tell you the truth, I felt the same way when I was first told the truth about God saving everyone. I have had an interest in God’s Word from my youth and was familiar enough to know that the KJV mentioned eternal torment in several places. My first reaction was, “How could anyone be so foolish as to doubt that hell was eternal? After all, anyone can read in Revelation 14 that ‘The smoke of their torment ascended up forever, and they have no rest day or night.”
But I was working with the only knowledge that I had at that time. I did not know that the word translated ‘forever’ was actually ‘aion’, the Greek word for ‘age.’
If any of you are truly interested in knowing the truth of God’s Word on this subject, please get a copy of “The Restitution Of All Things”, written over 150 years ago by a truly great scholar, Andrew Jukes. You will be amazed at how careful the translators were to give this word the meaning they wanted it to have. This statement is a joke LOL. Their translation had to accord with the teachings of the Church of England. Otherwise, King James, the head of the Church of England, could have fired them and declared them heretics and had them put to death. To make this one little word ‘aion’ and its adjective form ‘aionian’ conform to church doctrine, the translators were forced to contort it into 18 different English words and sometimes into complete phrases like “course of time.” Can you believe that even in the Book of Ephesians this word AION is translated into NINE different English words with far reaching meanings that dramatically affect the message. These errors have immersed themselves into every corner of Christianity which has brought to fulfillment Christ’s prophecy that faith would be hard to find when He returns to the earth.
Luke 18:8 when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?
Jesus will find it but it will not be in very many. Only the very few, His very elect will have faith on this earth. My friends I urge you all to read this book from Andrew Jukes. Especially those who had made the KJV Bible their idol. Ask God to show you His mind. You will be blown away with the depth of the deceit used to further this lie against the character of a loving heavenly Father.
The answer to the question Why Serve Christ Now If All Will Be Saved Anyway is found throughout the gospels in the words of Christ, and it is also found in the book of Revelation. Christ tells us:
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. (Gehenna,)
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. (Gehenna,)
In Revelation 20 we are told that “death and hell” are “destroyed” in the lake of fire, which Christ here refers to as “Gehenna.”
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Christ did not speak English and was not familiar with the English word ‘hell.’ ‘Gehenna,’ the word translated ‘hell’ here, is a valley just south of Jerusalem where garbage and the bodies of criminals were cast to be burned up. The flies would often lay their eggs on the bodies of the criminals and grow into maggots and mature into flies before the bodies would be burnt. Those are the so-called ‘immortal’ “worms [which] dieth not.” No maggot that matures into a fly ever dies as a maggot.
Now look at this verse in Revelation:
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (((This is the first resurrection.))))
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
There is the scriptural answer to the question posed by this post:
If all men will eventually be saved, what is the purpose of serving Christ now, as a Christian, since every one will be saved eventually. One might as well live a sinful life, and enjoy its pleasures. Let’s just eat, drink and be merry some may want to say.
If our carnal nature is so ungrateful ((((for the opportunity to rule with Christ,)))) as opposed to being cast into a figurative lake of fire which will “destroy death,” and therefore also destroy ‘hades,’ that is, the grave, then we will NOT be in that “Blessed and holy… first resurrection.” We will instead be raised after the thousand years.
We will come up from our graves in what is called the “great white throne judgment.” And we will at that time be “cast into the lake of fire.” But we are plainly told that it is better to endure that fire now, and be judged now, rather than to have the attitude of ‘Well, I’m going to be saved anyway, so I’ll just live for the flesh and pay the price later.’
1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
The fiery trials of the elect are their ‘judgment day.’ This is not called ‘the lake of fire.’ That phrase is reserved for —-THE SO CALLED DAMNED, as the poor translators that were influenced by the opinions of men in creating most English bibles today.
They are NOT eternally damned’ as taught by the orthodox church. The word damned is the same word translated —— CONDEMNED—– Here is what we are told of that later JUDGEMENT THE LATTER —-CONDEMNATION
1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves [now], we should not be judged [later with the world].
1Co 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned [to a later chastening judgment] with the world.
Now what is the scriptural purpose of any loving Father when He judges His children? Here is the scriptural purpose for all Godly judgment:
1Co 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord …
So you see, those in the first resurrection are special to God and through those very people God will bring in the rest of mankind.
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Rom 11:31 Even so have these [all] also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
This “mercy” of ours is the chastening ‘torment’ Joseph put his brothers through. We too, just as Joseph was, will be used to display God’s mercy in the coming ages:
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us [even now] sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
We are the “firstfruits,” but we are not the ‘only fruits.’ The “feast of firstfruits” in the beginning of the year, precedes the “feast of in gatherings” at the end of the year. Any farmer knows that the firstfruits are not as great in numbers as are the later fruits. But the first fruits are always special to a farmer because they are always much bigger and better that the later fruits. And so we are told:
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we [the few chosen] trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially [but not exclusively] of those that believe [believe now while on this earth].
1Ti 4:11 THESE THINGS COMMAND AND TEACH!
Do you know of any church which dares to “command and teach” this simple gospel truth? There is not one single church in all of orthodox Christianity that believes this verse of God’s Word.
There are so few places to actually find the truth these days. The apostasy is so bad and is as bad outside of the churches as it is on the inside. Consider these verses:
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
No difference between the saved at this time, and the unsaved in this age because every body eventually will be saved BUT….. BUT….. There is a great difference as far as ruling during the thousand years is concerned.
Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one [Adam] judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
1Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Tim 2:3 For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Tim 2:4 WHO —–WILL—– HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED —-AND—- COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH.
Notice the Scripture says WHO WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED not maybe or might. NO FRIENDS SALVATION IS SURE! This guarantee applies not only to salvation but also that ALL would come to knowledge of the truth. That is very good news and is the gospel preached by the Apostles and preached today by those called for that purpose by the Lord Himself.
Consider also my brothers and sisters, these wonderful promise from Peter and John.
2Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack CONCERNING HIS PROMISE, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering to us-ward, —-NOT WILLING— that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
An ALMIGHTY GOD gets what He wants. Nothing will stand in the way of God accomplishing His purposes and will for all of His creation. Nothing and that certainly includes the free will of any man or woman.
1John 2:2 And he [Christ] is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Amazing that we can read right through these Scriptures and explain them away with the doctrines of devils like eternal torment in hell. But we have been so blinded by false doctrines and traditions from The Babylonish ‘Mother of harlots’ that we have allow the hypnotic effect of the lie of eternal torment to keep our eyes from seeing the true gospel. Eternal hell-fire for most of mankind, or for that matter eternal death as some claim, is not ‘good news at all. The good news believed on by the vast majority of professing Christians is very bad news. How else could one label a belief or a gospel that has 99% plus of all humanity suffering forever in torment in front of the Lamb that created them? Think about it? Billions and trillions of years, never-ending torment. And yet these same people will claim that God is love. And the multitudes believe it still – WOW.
The fact that God “Works all things After The Counsel of His Own Will,” and the fact that “AS IN Adam all die, EVEN SO in Christ will all men be made alive” truly is good news for mankind. The sooner one comes to believe this, the sooner their lives will be eternally changed and the amazing blessings and promises of God will begin to transform their lives. This blessing is reserved just for the few and none of us know who they are except for the one who has chosen them all from the foundations of the world.
Eph 1:4 Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes
Just because God has decided to save all men, therefore we should not act ungrateful for our special calling by continuing to live in sin, as if this ‘lake of fire is something to take lightly. Nothing could be further from the truth! To whom much is given, much more will be expected said Jesus. The love God planted in our hearts for Him is going to be our GPS compass. We will desire to obey because He has saved us, not as an act or duty we do to save ourselves or even to confirm the work of Jesus on the cross.
Joseph’s brothers typify that ‘lake of fire experience.’ If we consider God to be a “hard man”, then He will show Himself that way to us in the judgment. BROTHERS AND SISTERS READING THIS PLEASE READ SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY AS THERE IS REALLY GOOD WISDOM IN THE STORY OF JOSEPH.
Just as Joseph showed himself to his brothers when they came down into Egypt to buy grain. They were “tormented in the presence of the lamb” who was listening to them confess that this was happening to them because of what they had done to their brother Joseph. Joseph heard every word his brothers spoke because they did not realize who he was as (((((he had spoken to them through an interpreter.)))) Please familiarize yourself with this these events as told in Genesis Chapters 48 thru 50 primarily.
I do not think many realize how miserable Joseph’s brothers’ lives were while they were enduring this ‘lake of fire’ experience. It is not something to be taken lightly. Even though their lives were never in danger, they were “hard men” and therefore perceived their brother as such many years after he had shown himself to them as their savior:
Seventeen years after Israel (Jacob), Joseph’s father came into Egypt he died. During all those years Joseph’s brothers were still so full of their ‘eternal hell fire” attitude, so to speak, that they still did not know their own brother for who he really was. They still believed that he was the same kind of orthodox Christian, as it were, as they were. They thought that just as soon as Jacob their father died, that Joseph would exact his revenge. They were living out the words Jesus spoke “I knew you were a hard man,” said the “wicked and slothful servant.”
But look now as Joseph reveals for us why God created ALL evil:
Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for am I in the place of God?
Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought —– evil—- against me; but God meant it [That very 'evil,' and all evil is what God means] UNTO GOOD to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
Gen 50:21 Now therefore fear ye not: I will nourish you, and your little ones. And he comforted them, and spake kindly unto them.
That is what a loving Father does to His wayward children. He torments them in their own ways till they are purified of their sins:
Psa 18:26 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.
Luk 19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
The ‘master’ had done nothing of the kind, for he had given this servant one talent to work with, but “to the froward He showed Himself froward.” Do you think God will not redeem his marred vessel which He has created marred? Beware that ‘lake of fire.’ It is composed of a resurrection full of Josephs whose orthodox Christian brothers have sold them into Egypt for a few silver coins.
Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion ['Zion' is a spiritual code for the elect] are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with THE DEVOURING FIRE? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
That is a fair question. Who is this ‘lake of fire? It is not at all what you have been told. It most certainly is not an eternal hell. Rather it is:
Isa 33:15 He that walks righteously, and speaks uprightly; he that despise the gain of oppressions, that shake his hands from holding of bribes, that stop his ears from hearing of blood, and shutts his eyes from seeing evil;
Isa 33:16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure.
This “devouring fire and everlasting burnings” is the word of God in the mouths of the Josephs who will come up in that “blessed and holy…first resurrection.” It is even now purging the lies that have been told about our loving heavenly Father from the minds of those “few chosen” called “out of” the “many called,”
Referring specifically to the churches of orthodox Christianity, the Holy Spirit gives us all this stern warning:
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakes of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
The churches of Christianity do accomplish a lot of very good works. They are being used of God to bring the name of Christ to billions of God’s creatures. At the very same time, it is these very works which are used of God to deceive so very many. Though they be ‘many wonderful works,’ whenever we deny God’s Words, we are denying Christ Himself!
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
The ‘hell fire’ of Matthew 5 is as figurative as the “cutting off” of one’s limbs in those same verses. Compare these two statements of our loving and merciful Savior. First this:
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
And then just a few verses later:
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Are we to believe that God wants you and me to “love our enemies” while He Himself does nothing of the kind, but rather roasts His enemies and many of our loved ones in real physical fire for all eternity? NO of course not. God has given us the same rules and has the same desires as given to Jesus. His will is to conform us into the image and likeness of His Son.
It is time that we repent of such blasphemy and come out of all of the lies of the orthodox Christian whore who tells herself…:
Rev 3:17 …I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
I hope this helps see that the saving of all is not a very good excuse to do all the carnal things that the carnal mind wants to do. I hope that someone sees that even though God will bring all to Himself, that in the meantime He is judging mankind and ‘making him anew the few chosen as seems good to the Potter.’
Jer 18:1 The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
Jer 18:2 Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.
Jer 18:3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.
Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.
“Where sin abounds, grace does much more abound” is not an encouragement to continue in sin. It is rather a stern warning that “grace chastens…us to forsake ungodliness and worldly lusts”. Once we come to know of God’s complete sovereignty, we will begin to understand the fear of the Lord.
Tit 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching [Greek- paideuo - chastening] us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
“all is of God” even the very evil of Joseph’s brothers.
Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
Pro 20:24 Man’s goings [good or evil] are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?
When God opens our eyes and brings His chosen ones into the saving faith of Christ there will be no escape from the chastening grace of God. As our love for all men grows, especially for those in the faith, we will learn obedience by the things we will suffer. When we make a mistake and sin, we will know it as the Holy Spirit will convict our hearts and we will repent and confess our sins before God and our fellow brothers and sisters. Those in the faith will ultimately be all men in the ages to come. Coming to faith in this body of flesh is not a defining limitation of an Almighty God whose hand is not too short to save all men. But what a great blessing to be chosen for faith now and to be called of God for service and ministry. Does anyone really want to contemplate how or why a saved person would take on a “let’s party” or live it up lifestyle knowing of this great goodness and mercy of our Father in heaven?
Those chosen of God are not working for salvation or even trying to keep it. All of this carnal arguing amongst Christian camps over OSAS and eternal security is such foolishness once God reveals the truth. Salvation is assured and is all of the Lord’s doing and He already finished it. This is the blessed hope of this glorious gospel for all men. The promises made to the fathers of faith will come to pass. God’s oath He swore to Abraham will be fulfilled.
So why don’t we live for ourselves and make the most of fulfilling our carnal lusts? It is because the grace of God that is working in our hearts. The chosen of God work for the Lord out of love. This love God Himself put into our hearts as the Scriptures declare. Our knowledge of the greater glory and the prize that lies ahead for those who endure all the way and remain faithful to their calling gives us incentive to strive for perfection. The higher calling is a crown of righteousness which will give us the honor of ruling and reigning with Christ in the coming reign on earth. The answer to the question really comes down to understanding the certainty of salvation and the role the Elect of God will play in the future.
REV 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection
More to come on these topic at this website very soon God willing.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS.