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Falling Away From Faith

May 18, 2010

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the FALLING AWAY comes first

No matter how hard men want to analyze or speculate on the Holy Scriptures, it is perfectly clear that salvation is a journey, an enduring walk of holiness that we must finish.  I am a big believer of the truth of eternal security that is spelled out in the Scriptures.  But there are clear conditions that come with this promise and that is simply that we continue walking in covenant with God all the way to the end.  But the teachings of Once Saved Aways Saved that remove these conditions and cherry pick the truth are lies and are a perversion of the truth as I believe this post will demonstrate.

Jesus did not come to judge the world but to save it.  Yet we all will be judged by our deeds by the WORD spoken by Jesus.

John 12:48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day.

We best heed the truth and not be ensnared by doctrines of demons and the traditions of men that will lead us astray from the truth.  The devil says we can’t fall away.  Jesus said the opposite.

John 16:1 Jesus said, All this I have told you so that you will not FALL AWAY

Paul gives the church many warnings about God destroying those that practice rebellion to His Law and thereby defile God’s temple.  Please go read this chapter but Paul ends it with a clear warning about overconfidence and any doctrine that remotely comes close to Once Saved Always Saved.

1 Corinthians 10:12  if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t FALL!

Falling away got into our bibles because Christians can indeed fall away.  It is indeed a very dangerous doctrine that says we cannot fall away.  Such error allows Christians to live focused on worldly things and the lusts of the flesh and claim to be walking with the Lord.  We must overcome these things, actually die to their control on our lives and never go back.  Otherwise we make God a liar telling Him that His grace is not sufficient for us to live a godly life being led by His Spirit.

The Flood of Deception Defines the End

I have written extensively on the flood of deception.  This is the apostasy and the great falling away spoken of by Paul in the opening verse to this post.  This falling away from the faith is brought about when we are seduced away and follow things taught by demons.  These spirits are the adversary to our Messiah and work under the guise of religion and godliness to actually pull off the deception.

1 Timothy 4:1But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will FALL AWAY from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons

If we get hooked into this movement, some of us will fall away from the faith.  Paul told us right here that this is what the Holy Spirit expressly spoke.  If we fall away from the faith, we are no longer saved my friends.  Without faith nobody can please God.  Without faith, nobody can be righteous.  Without faith, nobody will see the Lord. 

In this post I want to show some very clear teachings about falling away.  The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved continues to be taught and believed by the majority of Christians.  Teaching the true gospel of repentance and a walk of holiness is just too unpleasant for flesh to hear and does not build numbers or fill the offering buckets nearly as well as the false doctrines being passed off as truth.  As a deceived local pastor once told me “we don’t want to scare anyone away”.  It is the truth that saves.  Fearing God is a very good thing and its elimination from the church enables deceivers to bring in their destructive heresies.  

Whether or not an individual is saved or not is not the place of any man to judge; as indeed God does all the saving anyway and He alone knows the hearts of His people.  Yet the error of OSAS is likely to influence the choices and response we have to the inevitable and promised temptations and trials of life. 

You have heard the saying “when the going gets tough, the tough get going”.  In Spiritual wisdom, this cliché could be written.

“When the trials intensify, those of true faith trust only in the LORD”

Paul spoke to Timothy about standing firm and fighting the good fight, knowing full well that many would not endure to the end.

1 Timothy 1:19 I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight, 19holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith.

Nobody is saved without faith. The faith that Jesus and the writers of the Bible defined has been so perverted from what is typically found today that I doubt the Apostles would even recognize it.  Jesus asked the rhetorical question “when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?”  The trials are coming, the furnace is getting hotter for all that strive to live a godly life in Christ Jesus.  These trials come to both believers and non believers alike but prophecy and the truth of God’s WORD tells us that MANY will fall away from the faith in the end.  This has already happened for the most part as what men call church is not church, what we call faith is not faith, even the very image and nature of who God is — has been perverted.  Babylon is fallen.

I wanted to be brief in this post and simply highlight the clear Scriptures that make it as clear as the nose on my face, that WE CAN INDEED FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH.  I have written before on one of the all time doctrines of demons called eternal security or Once Saved Always Saved.  I have a lengthy post on my blog header titled OSAS if you are so led.   But the Scriptures contain numerous passages that make it clear we can fall away and which also warn us about such occurences.

Jesus says in the end, many will fall away

Matthew 24Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10“At that time MANY WILL FALL AWAY and will betray one another and hate one another.  Jesus goes on to tell us how this comes and the results or evidence of it.

“Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.12“Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold. False teachers are everywhere.  They teach doctrines that do not conform one to godliness and out of their greed they are exploiting people for gain and selfish ambition.  Be it building an earthly ministry, money or simply esteem and reputation,  they draw disciples upon themselves and to do so they must pervert the truth and tickle ears.  I am sick of seeing people peddling books, seeking donations and the like so they can serve God.  This is the merchandising of religion that the third seal of revelation spoke of.  Everyone wants to sell you the truth in return for your money, your labor or your favor.  Do not be deceived but pay heed to what Jesus told us countless times.

But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.

Speaking to the churches, the LORD spoke to those that had fallen away.  He warned them that they had better repent and come back to Him.  Have you left your first love?

Revelation 2:5 But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. ’Therefore remember from where you have FALLEN, and repent

The parable of the sower tells the sad story

This parable which is in all the synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) speaks to four types of believers.  Only one kind makes it all the way to the end.  While interpreting this parable to the Disciples, Jesus again shows us many will fall away by turning their hearts back into the world.  This is exactly what Lot’s wife did, she was saved then was lost and you can read that in Luke 17. Here in Luke’s version of the parable of the sower, hear what Jesus said.

Luke 8:13 Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation FALL AWAYThis is the truth.  Anyone resting on their laurels or what they believed or did in the past becomes prey for the powers of darkness who will test your faith until the day you die.  If you fall back into sin, and believe you are saved,  you are deceived.  You have been sent the GOD SENT delusion that comes to all who love their sin.  I pray you will wake up soon as time grows very short.

The Book of Hebrews is about a Walk of Salvation

Writing to the “brothers”, Paul warns against continued sin and hardening of our heart by pursuing things in the world.  This is falling away.

Hebrews 3 –  See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that TURNS AWAY from the living God. 13But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.  There sure is a lot of wasted Scripture if we can’t fall away??  Instead of listening to religious liars and false prophets, we should be heeding the words of God, otherwise we deceive ourselves.  The truth will set you free and keep you on guard for the wiles of our enemy.

Hebrews 4:11 - Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one WILL FALL by following their example of disobedience.  Disobedience is sinning or committing lawlessness.  If we pervert the grace of God into a license for sin, we have fallen from truth.  We have been swept away by the flood of deceit that brings about the end.  If we do not press on to maturity but stop as an infant or a baby, we will fall away.  We must mature, we must be sanctified by coming through the furnace of affliction.  Babylon teaches salvation is an event not a walk.  They are shedding the blood of the saints with their false gospel and are teaching another Jesus.  The Jesus they define is actually the image of the beast as spoken about in Revelation 13.

Hebrews 5and having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation, …..12For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food.  13For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant. 14But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.

I showed this passage in a recent video about the end signs, but speaking about nursing babies that are still on milk and do not press on to maturity – Jesus said WOE UNTO THEM. 

Hebrews 6 - It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, IF THEY FALL AWAY, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.  This warning along with the one in Hebrews 10 should be enough for anyone to see the truth about our walk of holiness and endurance unto the end.  The fear of God is a very good thing and if one is without that, they do not know the true living God.

Peter’s warnings on false teachers and falling away

Just like in the parable of the sower, Peter shows us we can come to know the truth, operate in a true faith but then can be enticed away.  Once we escape the world and its lusts we can never go back there, but that is exactly what the enemy will try to get us to do.

2 Peter 2For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.  22It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”

The metaphor of a dog (someone outside of covenant) returning to its own vomit or a pig once washed going back into the mud confirm what falling away means.  It means we put on a religious badge but eventually return and pursue the world and the things in the world.  We fall from grace, we break covenant with God.  We revert to being a DOG when we do this.  

There comes a point where we can fall so far and harden our hearts where we cannot receive the true WORD and be healed.  That is a fall from faith which is the sin unto death for which there is no recovery and no repentance.  This is why we must not play around with sin and need to come out and be separate and touch not what is unclean.  We can be deceived, we can be enticed back into the world.  Remember Lot’s wife.  If we are led astray by false teachers and churches that teach we can keep on practicing sin and be in the will of God, look out below, you are in a free fall from the true gospel.

2 Peter 3:17 Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position

Paul’s instructions on appointing elders

I found it interesting that even the instructions Paul gave about appointing elders reference falling into condemnation and out of grace.  There is no condemnation for those IN CHRIST, but if we fall away and follow demons and practice sin, we are indeed under condemnation, even an elder or religious big shot.

1 Timothy 3:6-7 … and not a new convert, so that he will not become conceited and FALL into the condemnation incurred by the devil.  7And he must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Falling Away from the Grace

Grace is the power of God working in us.  When we try to make up for our sinfulness and justify practicing sin by fleshly human attempts at being holy and nice, we are practicing a WORKS salvation.  We are not being led by the Holy Spirit anymore.

Galatians 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have FALLEN AWAY from grace.

This is what many in Babylon are doing.  They have put on forms of godliness but deny the power of Yeshua (Jesus) to transform us into a new creation.  We do not believe what Abraham believed when we attempt to justify ourselves by all our good deeds.  God must do the circumcision, He must give us the new heart.  We must believe and stand in His grace being led by the Holy Spirit.

So I hope these clear passages on falling away and the related warnings have opened the eyes of those that have turned their hearts to the world and lusts of the flesh.  Do not run your race in vain and rest on false doctrines like eternal security.  Jesus will not cast us out, nobody can snatch us out of His hands, but we can on our free will walk away from the faith by following the wrong spirit and following the deceitfulness of sin.  The harlot churches of these end times have created an image of God that is false.  There is no fear of the Lord in Babylon.

Romans 11:22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off

Don’t wander away from the truth.  Don’t let anything get your heart besides Jesus.  He demands it all.  Many people have fallen away.  They have forsaken their first love and have wandered off in pursuit of the world and the things of the world.  Guard your heart and beware.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

May God Bless You Richly!

25 Comments leave one →
  1. randall lowrey permalink
    February 29, 2012 4:15 PM

    What i say to one of us………….i say to all……………beware for the new age concepts are all over ……….even in those who may appear in a righteous light, even in those who profess godliness.
    The world is ripe for the arrival of the dark one………even now is he in the world.
    Soon………….the few will be seen as the haters. Tis all about the here and now for many.
    The reward of enduring till the end……….has been replaced with its already been attained.
    Yet…………..even Paul said, not as though i have attained…….
    Yall…………….soon we shall only be seen as in the way of the road to peace. all in the way of good times and heaven on earth and men are gods………etc. I see this beginning already.
    Win as many NOW, i tell you dont sit and wait…………….there is a delusion coming……….and though we see much delusion now………….this one will be the one At the end.
    And all who rejected the love of the truth………….have done just that…………they rejected the TRUE CHRIST and hear only the man created one. i am warning us all…………….win souls now. Warn whoever will listen…………..warn them all. The hour comes………….and nigh is.
    I love you all…………..and if it be of the Lords will………..mayhaps some of us will even be together at the end…………
    I dont know what any of our end in this world will be. if it be a few are together………..and they come for us …………may we sing with boldness to GOD be the GLORY.
    And with tears for them , for God desired none to perish……….and any saved was only by Grace.
    LOve all , even your enemies………..and pray for those who despitefully use you.
    I only know as i am given to know………i have no knowledge of where any of us will be at the end of our faith, Peter by Christ was actually told what his end on earth would be.
    I , have no word given on this. And may never till it occurs. Either way i am content.
    To GOD BE ALL THE GLORY.

  2. randall lowrey permalink
    February 29, 2012 3:53 PM

    Faith produces works. The one true work………..Believe in the one whom God has sent.
    And from this work…………..FAITH…………….works come forth. And works actually perfect faith.
    Read this. And oh yes……………..not only can some FALL away……………..MANY HAVE,.
    Our security is in Christ………….BUT IF WE ARE OF HIM…………we walk as HE DID.
    NOT the WORLD……………for he who has ears to hear…………..let him hear.
    And our prayers our only for your good. Obediance. CHOOSE, and we do so DAILY.
    Looking diligentely LEST ANY MAN FAIL of the grace of GOd.
    Make your calling and election sure………….for IF you do these things you shall never FALL.
    But i keep under my body,,,,,,,,,,bringing it unto subjection lest even after i have preached the gosple…………..I TOO BE A CASTAWAY. Behold both the goodness and severity of GOD…………Be not highminded but fear(he tells the church) FOR IF GOD spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
    Behold therefore the goodness and seveity of GOd…..on them whic fell , severity, but toward the GOODNESS….IF, IF, IF thou continue in HIS GOODNESS, otherwise thou also shall be CUT OFF…….(HE WARNS THE CHURCH)
    But when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ they will marry, HAVING DAMNATION…………(why you ask)BECAUSE THEY HAVE CAST OFF their FIRST FAITH.
    (yes they had faith at one time but walked away) For if ye continue not in HIM……..ye are cast forth as a unprofitable branch.
    BUT christ as a son over his own HOUSE, whose house we are IF, IF , IF we hold fast the CONFIDENCE and the rejoicing of the hope FIRM till the END.
    But exhort one another daily , while it is called today; lest any of YOU(he tells the church) be hardend through the deceitfulness of SIN, (now read the next line) FOR we are MADE partakers of CHRIST IF< we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the END.
    Oh…………..Let us therefore fear, lest a PROMISE being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
    For it is IMPOSSIBLE for those who were once ENLIGHTENED, and have tasted of the heafenly gift, and were made partakers of the HOLY GHOST……….and have tasted the good word of GOD, and the powers of the world to come, IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY , to renew them again unto repentance…………….
    Oh……..Follow peace with all men, and holiness , without which no man shall see the Lord, Lookng diligetnly lest any man FAIL of the GRACE OF GOD. HE warns the church yet again.
    For if i build again the things which once i destroyed i MAKE myself a transgressor.
    Receiving the END of your faith, the salvation of your souls………..(the end, may none walk away)
    But he that lacks these things is blind……and cannot see afar off, and has forgotten he was purged from his old sins, Wherefore the rather, brethren(he warns the church) Give diligence to make your calling and ELECTION SURE, for IF, IF ye do these things ye, shall never FALL. (repeated a lil more in depth)
    FOr if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savoir JESUS CHRIST, they are again entangled therein, and overcome , the LATTER END, is worse with them than the beginningl FOr it had been better for them not to have KNOWN THE WAY of righteouness, than, AFTER they have KNOWN IT, to turn from thte HOLY commandment delivered unto them. But it has happened unto them according to the true proverb…….the dog is tunred to his own vomit again…..and the sow that was WASHED to her wallowing in the mire.
    Jeff, i pray and hope a few of these verses will help. I know without a doubt GOD does desrie none to persih……..he saved one of the worst when he called me………..but i know too i must continue on in HIS GOODNESS, the only GOODNESS i have…………lest i be a castaway.
    Dig deep JEff, I come in peace only to help you. For i too desire none to perish.
    We must go back to just the simplicity of what has been written. For the time has come when many no longer endure sound doctrine. Jeff my prayers are for you, and to your good. I pray you hear.
    Be blessed.

  3. February 29, 2012 12:29 PM

    Thank you Jeff for your heartfelt comment. I do believe in eternal security of the believer, but it has an if/then condition. We must receive the gift and walk in it. While we are in HIS hands, nobody can snatch us out, but we can in our free will leave GOD and walk away. The Bible says we can fall away from the faith. Some Jesus says will believe for only a “little while” then fall away (Luke 8:13). We are not saved by works but those works will be there are as otherwise our faith is in vain and we are just deceived. The Scriptures speak clearly that the majority of people will be told peace and safety, clinging to a false security and then suddenly destruction will come. Praises to the ONE who is mighty to save, JESUS THE KING. We must decide once and for all in our hearts to get in on what Jesus has done. We do that and stand there, we will be saved and that is my hope for all. It is by grace, thru FAITH that we are saved. But that faith means a whole lot more than saying some words with our lips.

  4. Jeff permalink
    February 29, 2012 12:16 PM

    I am astonished at how this article was written and organized so chaotically. How did you ever come to any conclusion that a true child of God would ever or could ever fall away from the Christ Jesus?………Do you not understand what Eternal Security is or at how salvation is maintained? I guess not, for your words teach that it is by works our salvation is maintained, not the deeds of Jesus Himself upon the cross. Was not the price that Jesus payed enough to cover your sins? Do you have to re-crucify Him daily with such Biblical heresies as to hold them as truth. Do you not understand that no one can snatch us from the hand of God? Can you not perceive what a new creation in God means? Is it beyond you capability at this time (and I pray not) to understand that Salvation is Eternal, because it is founded upon the deeds of Jesus, thus making it rock solid………….The structure of the letter I read above is such a blatant heresy, it makes me want to cry….;-(

  5. November 2, 2011 3:47 AM

    I watched a couple more videos, and yes this couple seem to strong in faith and knowing what the walk is all about because of their maturity and experience. http://youtu.be/BiooQ-dlqCk

  6. randall lowrey permalink
    November 2, 2011 12:54 AM

    The Lords bringing the lambs together.
    Persecutions coming.
    Be blessed. Sandra………….and all others.

  7. November 2, 2011 12:46 AM

    This guy–soldiersofthecross — seems to be very solid in the faith.

    Agape
    Bill

  8. November 2, 2011 12:16 AM

    kalamata 777 is a false teacher amen.

    This is a good message. http://youtu.be/c1lNoGWbiak

  9. November 1, 2011 11:33 PM

  10. Karen permalink
    November 1, 2011 2:50 PM

    Oooops, just realized Pete’s got em already in the article. :) :)

  11. Karen permalink
    November 1, 2011 2:47 PM

    Thanks Bill, here are a couple more scriptures regarding falling away from the faith:

    Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, And have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, If they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

    2 Pet 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.

  12. randall lowrey permalink
    November 1, 2011 1:49 PM

    Enjoyed the videos Bill.
    All brethren be blessed.
    And praise the Lord on high.
    Our faith shall be tested………………….but praise the Lord.
    Remember the words………….I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the Fire……….that you may be rich.
    Blessed be the Lord. This world is not Home.
    Yall be blessed.

  13. Sandra Goforth permalink
    November 1, 2011 11:21 AM

    Bro. Bill, I enjoyed the videos, very good message. Praise be the Lord. We shall finish the race, we shall stay focused on Jesus, not turning to the right hand, nor to the left, ever strifing for the finish line, amid all persecution that may come, for we have an intercessor, one in whom we know will not forsake us. We shall stand on the “Rock” ever firm in our faith.

    God bless, with Love in Christ Jesus, Sandra

  14. November 1, 2011 5:29 AM

    @Anonymous There is a sin that does not lead to death but there is a sin that does lead to death — the sin unto death. There are many prodigal son stories which give great hope yet there are Pharoh stories also. This is why we should not play around with sin and count on last minute death bed repentances to make us right with God. Sin is deceitfull and there comes a point that God knows where we harden our hearts so much we can no longer be washed anew by the WORD.

    Hebrews 3:13 But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin

    http://truthinscripture.com/2010/11/05/the-sin-unto-death/

    The lie of OSAS and unconditional eternal security has been Satan’s strategy since day one in the garden.

  15. November 1, 2011 3:58 AM

    Thank you bro’ Bill. Our faith and our trust in Christ pleases The Father. Keep in the good fight.

  16. Bill Johnson permalink
    November 1, 2011 2:26 AM

  17. Bill Johnson permalink
    November 1, 2011 1:17 AM

    Be blessed in our Lord Jesus Christ, Randall, Charles, Barb, Pete, Paul, Jose , KF, Glen, Karen, Esther, Sandra, and all others here with us. This is a good teaching
    on finishing the race.

    Agape
    Bill

  18. randall lowrey permalink
    November 1, 2011 1:05 AM

    Bill be blessed. The great persecution for all who claim Jesus is the only way………….that cling to sound doctrine……………..Its coming.
    The few will be hated.
    Bill……………thanks for trying to help anonymous.
    Lets pray for them as well.
    Be blessed.

  19. Bill Johnson permalink
    October 31, 2011 11:31 PM

    Pauls writing style is very unique and identifieable.

    ——————

    Matthew 13-20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

    21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

    Luke :11-24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.

    25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.

    26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

    This man who fell away. 7 unclean spirits even more wicked than the one which proceed out of his own heart, now he is of the 8th (perdition). This man is now worse off than he was before he was a believer. He wonders to and fro seeking (((rest))) and finding none. This fallen away soul is wondering in dry places (no Holy Ghost) so he goes back to his old house (old ways) and finds it all cleaned and ready for him to move back in. Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God. (looking back is like Lots wife) they want to go back to their old house EGYPT. (the flesh ways of the world)

    The rest that this man cannot find is the sabbath rest that is found only while abiding in Christ.

    Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his

    God Bless
    Bill

  20. anonymous permalink
    October 31, 2011 10:53 PM

    Also. Paul more than likely did not write Hebrews.

  21. anonymous permalink
    October 31, 2011 10:52 PM

    Couple thoughts:
    “Falling away” is a preposition. It requires an object. Most of your quoted verses refer to “falling away” but do not finish the phrase. In your text about the verses you assume that the “falling away” is from faith.

    What is “falling away from faith”? Is it the same thing as “falling away from salvation,” “falling away from eternal life,” or “falling away from grace?” If those three things are synonymous (which you seem to support considering you use “falling from faith” as an argument against “once saved always saved”), then faith=salvation=grace. Are these three things actually the same?

    If one “falls away from faith”, is it possible to return? Must they do it before they die? Are they completely repenting as if they’ve never been saved before or merely returning to a place they once held? If you are becoming saved as if never saved before, what would the author of Hebrews think in regards to that (see Heb. 6:4-7)? If one cannot return once falling away, then it’s a one shot deal?

  22. October 1, 2010 9:12 PM

    Hi AG. It is awesome that you are walking with the LORD at such a young age and hunger and thirst for the truth. Keep at it, it will become a life long pursuit and I am sure God will use you in mighty ways. I am familar with David’s site and while we can agree on many things, this issue is not one of them. But follow no man, but let the Spirit of God tell you what is true and confirm it all in the Scriptures, taken as a whole, properly divided. As far as the Athiests go, I would tell them the truth but if they do not accept it, move on to others where the seed of truth may have better soil to be planted. We sow the seed and let God determine if it sprouts into new life.

  23. A.G. permalink
    October 1, 2010 8:00 PM

    Hey Pete! I am SO glad I found this informative and enlightening message about eternal security. I am an avid reader of jesus-is-savior.com by David J. Stewert and one of the articles he has is about eternal security..once saved, always saved. And he was going on about how there are sites and preachers saying that eternal security is false and they are demonic and all sorts of things. Which I have ALWAYS had trouble accepting! Reading this article, I know it was right and I KNOW it was the lord telling me that it simply wasn’t true! I have been on a forum on City-Data, on the religious section, arguing on a daily with Atheist about Christ. I’d say almost 95% of the Atheist on that site and most Atheist in general came from a Christian background. They were filled with the faith. Then then FELL AWAY like the bible said! So idk, i think it’s great you cleared it up with passages that are true and told. I’m only 17 but I think the Lord has blessed me with a gift to decipher what is evil and good like you said. I was so shocked when I read that verse because it is exactly what I think about when I study various bible subjects and come to truth!

  24. June 9, 2010 1:45 PM

    Absolutely Jill. I sent you a private message. I would be happy to discuss anything and everything about God with you. Let’s learn together and if we don’t know something, we can search for the answer in the Scriptures.

  25. Jill Schmidt permalink
    June 9, 2010 1:34 PM

    Hi Mr. Pete!

    It’s your friend, Jill…I was there two weekends ago with Harrison at Cyndi’s 50th birthday party. I just now have found the time to check out your blog. I have not had time to read it entirely, but I find it very interesting and full of truth. Your spirit spoke to me while I was there and I look forward to reading your entire website when time allows. I briefly scanned the part about Babylon and the Mark of the Beast and already some questions have been answered that I’ve been wondering about for quite some time. I look forward to learning more and was wondering if you were open to questions regarding religion and scriptural meanings? I grew up in a very religious home and church and I have a lot of questions regarding the difference between spirituality and religion. It seems that you have studied this at length and maybe could answer some questions…hope all is well with you and hope to hear from you!

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