Abomination that Causes Desolation
One of the key signs of the end foretold by Jesus and by the Prophet Daniel is that we would come to see an abomination that causes desolation.
Matthew 24:15 Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place, ……………. 21“For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
Here is how the Prophet Daniel recorded the prophecy that Jesus quoted.
Daniel 9:27 In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him
I know that great tribulation lies just ahead, how exactly that plays out only God knows but the righteous judgment of God is coming. I know it because I SEE THIS ABOMINATION.
The ABOMINATION is the Powers of Darkness and the resulting Sin
God has shown me what some of these prophecy signs foretell in stunning clarity. The abomination has been here for a very long time but the secrets of many prophecies are now beginning to be revealed. I share this in hopes it will fully awaken you to some of the deceptive beliefs that have become unquestioned truth in Christian circles, yet they are lies. I have been acting like Jonah, and have been hesitant to speak out fully on some of the most controversial truths that go against the mainstream theology. I recently did a video about Our Enemy, the powers of darkness. They have been hidden from view and I believe it was the revelation of the mystery of lawlessness and sin that was at the heart of this abomination.
Daniel was told about the ruler to come. This ruler is Satan and the powers of darkness who were given dominion over the earth. They have come to kill, steal and destroy and as this verse below says – to destroy the city and the sanctuaries. This is all part of God’s testing and process of sanctification as I have shown earlier. We must overcome all of this to stand before the Son of Man.
Daniel 9:26 The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
The end comes with the flood of deception, the religious lies that come in thoughts, teachings, doctrines, erroneous theology, images, wolves in sheep’s clothing and the cotton candy gospel of the apostate church. All this deception of course comes with Christian labels in the name of Jesus yet they are lies that take you away from a walk of holiness and point you to a false Jesus. This is the horror that many are now being awakened to see.
Daniel spoke about this ruler later in Chapter 11, telling us about the army that would come from the king of the north. This army is the powers of darkness, they always come out of the north as is shown throughout the Prophets. Here we see some more distinction on what this army will do. THEY TICKLE FLESH by words of flattery. This is religious deception and aligns exactly with what I have been shown and have been speaking out on regarding the FLOOD of lies which is how the end comes. IT IS HERE.
Daniel 11:31-32 His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. 32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him
I am resisting these lies as indeed I am trying to blow a warning and wake up my brothers and sisters. People that practice sin have violated God’s covenant and God said He would send the delusion upon them. The strong delusion has ALREADY been sent. We have heaped upon ourselves teachers that tell us what our itching ears want to hear.
Traditions of Men
Conventional wisdom and popular Christian theology has many anchors of belief that are the key deceptions keeping many in bondage and blind to the truth. Here is my characterization of how most professing Christians see the events of the end time unfolding. This is not my view whatsoever.
1. A new physical third temple will be built in the city of Jerusalem
2. A single man will arise with great mystique and will deceive the whole world
3. This man is the antiChrist and he rule for 3.5 or 7 years before the end and sign a peace treaty with the country of Israel.
4. The antiChrist will bring an abomination into the new temple and defile it claiming to be God.
5. Mid way through the tribulation of this man’s reign, he will stop the sacrifice of animals in the new temple
6. At some point in this sequence, Jesus will quietly come and rapture out the church.
I have oversimplified it for sure and the order and sequence of common beliefs in these areas do differ; but all in all it is a big fat delusion. It is part of the deception that keeps MANY unaware and unprepared for the return of the LORD. Every single one of these “beliefs” are not true. other lies lay at the root of each. Lies piled upon lies that become traditions of men and over a few thousand years, results in a flood of deception. That is where we are my friends, most everyone is drunk and fast asleep with a false wine and the sweet bread being sold as the truth. The gospel of Jesus Christ does not please the flesh so man has been easy prey for an enemy that comes in that cuts out the hard part, pours water on the truth and dumps in the sugar to make their gospel pleasing and ear tickling to our flesh. But it is all a lie.
This widely held end time theology listed above would have you believe you can watch CNN or FOX news and see when the temple is undergoing construction, actually opens for business and then when this “new” political leader arises; we all can do some simple mathematics on the number of years left and then get ready for Jesus. No my friends, Jesus will come as a thief and nobody is going to know the day or hour. Many will be totally surprised, my Bible says perplexed, astonished, and bewildered. The astonishment is because they will not be ready and when they realize the delusion they believed, the false gospel they followed; the testimony of the WORD of God will convict them and there will be no escape. The door to the Kingdom will be forever shut.
1 Thessalonians 5:3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape
Jesus Will Come As A Thief
We must be sober, alert, and above all READY! Before I directly address the abomination I want to share what I see that is wrong about the common theology summarized above.
Third Temple:
I doubt a third “Jewish” temple will ever be built in the city of Jerusalem. Even if it is built by the works of the flesh of men, it will not be the temple of God. God does not live in temples as He made very clear in the New Testament in many places. Here are just a few. Does God change? Does God lie?
ACTS 7:48 the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands
1 COR 3:16 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
Many will point to the temple described by the Prophet Ezekiel. I don’t have space to segue into that topic but I have been shown that this vision actually depicts the FALSE Spiritual Temple, another words, the fallen deceived Babylon Church of the end. All the trimmings and explanations in Ezekiel consistently point to this as a false temple and it is spiritual. Jesus said that the road was narrow, the gate was small and that few there be shall find the way. The rest will be on the wrong road, following a different Jesus and will hear depart from me, I do not know you. We need to be part of the holy stump and the escaped remnant to see the LORD.
If the Jews living in the country we call Israel, which is NOT the ISRAEL of GOD actually build a temple assuming Jesus does not come first, then it does not change the truth. God will not be in that Temple, He will only be in the hearts of His true children, the TRUE ISRAEL of God. So all this 3rd temple stuff is a deception and distraction to take our focus away from the imminent coming of the LORD. Do not be deceived.
You really must see that nation we call Israel is not Israel as spoken of in the Scriptures. I have posts on that but know it is children Born of the Spirit that are the Israel of God, it never ever had anything to do with a piece of land or ancestors or natural descendants as Jesus, Paul, the Prophets all made very clear. Not seeing this truth, will keep you from understanding what you need to know about the prophecies.
AntiChrist the Man Exalts Himself:
The Apostle John told us the spirits of antichrist were already at work in the world when he wrote his first Epistle. Collectively these spirits are known as the Beast in Revelation 13 and they raise up the false prophets and teachers via religious lies and deception. The result is hundreds of denominations and sects and division in the body of believers. This beast and the false prophets that support the beast are not political figures, they are religious spirits and doctrines. Their goal is to deceive the whole world and get the world to worship the image of the beast. Politicians do not get people to worship. Nobody calling themselves a Christian is going to follow a politician and worship some God they choose to install in churches or some new temple.
The idea of the antichrist calling himself God or exalting himself as God is simply the false gospel and seeds of a tares that get installed into people’s hearts. The enemy sows these bad seeds and we eat them because they look attractive to our flesh. These antichrist’s have succeeded in creating a false image of God. This God doesn’t control the devil, does not bring calamity or sickness upon His people and is going to save everyone. All you have to do is bow down and say his name and you can keep on practicing sin and walk as a double minded harlot lusting after the world and the pleasures of life. This God is the image of Satan.
The true Jesus has become a stumbling block as flesh does not want to be crucified, it wants an easy and broad road to heaven. Many will be deceived, which means the vast majority Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24. Yet very few Christians would be deceived if some man came along and called himself God and stood in a building built of bricks. The problem is the man is not a man, it is evil spirits, a bunch of them, in fact an entire army. The exaltation is of a false Jesus, the one the Babylon Church will praise and worship. This is the god that only loves and does not judge.
The Spirits of AntiCrist Work Thru Flesh and Men. They come disguised as “religion” and that is how they deceive the whole world. Speaking about how we would become enslaved to the dark powers, the Prophet Isaiah told us how the deception and ultimately the flood builds.
Isaiah 28:13 Precept upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little, that they might go and fall backward, and be broken
and snared and caught. People have been caught and led into captivity by the little and subtle lies that have crept into the church and accumulated over time.
A little bit of leaven spoils the whole batch. The bread being served is poisoned even with a little bit of false doctrine. Lie upon lie have been built and we now awaken to a horrifying truth. But it was all foretold to us, but we chose to get drunk and drink the sweet wine instead of following the LORD in a walk of holiness. I have been the worst of these but in His mercy was awakened earlier than many to this truth.
This false Jesus like the real LORD is full of abundant mercy but this one’s mercy never ever runs out even if you love your sin more than God. You can sin with impunity and it does not matter as you are once saved always saved. Salvation to this god is bowing down one time, it is not a difficult walk that we must finish. This is a false Jesus, the very one we were warned about to not be deceived by and not to follow. We need to know what the antichrist really is and not believe in the fables that have been passed down over the centuries. It isn’t some man, they have been here for a very long time we are just now beginning to SEE it with our spiritual eyes.
Babylon the fallen church has exalted itself. It lives for sensuality, meaning for the flesh, it is worldly, thinks it needs nothing and it is not a widow. But those immersed and following this false god are widows, they are without Jesus as a husband and are lost and doomed for destruction unless they come out of her (this false church) now. Babylon is a mother of harlots and is fallen away from the truth and has become a dwelling place for demons and every unclean spirit. These demons and the unclean spirits are the antichrist, they are the adversary of the Messiah which is TRUTH.
The stopping of the sacrifice simple means the teaching that we do not need to die to ourselves in order to be Born Again. That is the predominate teaching in Christian circles. Just say a prayer, come to church and you are born again and will receive the Holy Spirit. My Bible doesn’t say that, it says we must go to the cross and die and be raised anew in the first resurrection and carry our cross daily. We are to be a holy and living sacrifice unto the Lord, just as Abraham offered up his new-born son Isaac on the mountain, so we must be offered to God. So when the sacrifice is abolished, you have a cotton candy gospel that is very pleasing and ear tickling to the world and flesh. It builds big numbers and that is why 82% of Americans call themselves Christians, because they have been taught this big lie. God sees the hearts and that is what He judges but I am confident in saying, most of these 82% are worshipping the image of the beast.
Revelation 13:2 And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast; 4they worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?”
People are deceived because the deception has come from inside church over centuries of time. That is where we are now, the deception that was already at work in the world has about run its course and most mainstream churches are teaching another Jesus and another gospel. Anyone who loves their doctrine or their “church” more than the truth of God’s Word is worshipping the beast despite their outward expression of religion and faith.
Sin is the Abomination
The enemy game plan is to cause us or entice us into sin. That is what kills our soul, it is how the truth is stolen from our hearts and ultimately why we are destroyed if we do not repent and follow Jesus how the LORD defined following Him. But I also want you to see that SIN itself is the abomination and we must purge this abomination out of our hearts, our temples and our sanctuaries.
The enemy comes inside of us. That is right, spirits live in people and one of the things fallen christians will be stunned on the last day is that they had listened to lies and liars their whole life. If we are truly Born Again and walk in holiness with the LORD, these devils leave us, they flee. But if we live in our sin and believe we are saved and a child of God, we are following the wrong spirit. This is foretold in scores of places in the Prophets and here is one from Jeremiah’s lament over the fallen church. This isn’t speaking about the Romans, it is speaking about the powers of darkness.
Lamentations 4:12 The kings of the earth did not believe, Nor did any of the inhabitants of the world, That the adversary and the enemy could enter the gates of Jerusalem.
Our adversary roars like lions when they conquer the temples of God. While this Psalm may speak to a historical event, if foretells how the new spiritual temples of God would be torn down and made desolate.
Psalm 74:4-5 Your foes roared in the place where you met with us; they set up their standards as signs. The spirits make up their own gospel, the establish a different Jesus. They behaved like men wielding axes to cut through a thicket of trees. These dark powers, working on the inside, chop down the trees of God. We are the trees of the field.
Joel 2:9 They rush on the city, they run on the wall; they climb into the houses, They enter through the windows like a thief. This prophet speaks of the end and that the enemy, the thief would enter through windows into the houses. Sin is a window and an opening for these dark powers.
Jeremiah 9:21 For death has come up through our windows; It has entered our palaces. This truth about the abomination is everywhere, I hope to show more in some upcoming posts or videos. The abomination is standing in very many places where it ought not to be. We need people to know the truth so they can be set free and be cleansed of this defilement.
Galatians 4:8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. Paul wrote about the demons and evil spirits throughout his Epistles. Man has built theology that just ignores these verses and the spirit behind that theology is not of God. We are slaves to the one we obey. Are you obeying the Holy Spirit or some other kind of spirit?
Sin is an abomination to God. When the deceitfulness of sin gets into our hearts, the temples of God, the temple is soon defiled. God says He will extract vengeance for His temple and its defilement. You see this in a lot of places but here are some favorites from Proverbs.
Proverbs 6:16 There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him. This is all about God’s hatred for sin and there are some good definitions in this Proverb.
Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are an abomination to the LORD. Jesus is truth, everything else is a lie. God hates lies, spin, manipulation, selective disclosure, and all the inventions of men to take something dishonest and make it okay.
Proverbs 16:5 Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD. Satan was kicked out of heaven for pride. God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. An awful lot of religion is done today, just like the Pharisees did it in Jesus’ days, for selfish gain of some kind. Pride is at the root of all this and this is from the enemy.
Proverbs 28:9 He who turns away his ear from listening to the law, even his prayer is an abomination . If you follow the spirits that take away the sacrifice you will not like God’s law, you will believe it has been abolished or certainly does not apply to you and you will pervert grace into a license to sin. You have been swept away by the flood my friend if you believe that and even your prayers are an abomination to God, HE WILL NOT HEAR THEM.
Sin Causes Desolation
Sin defiles the temple of God. Praise God for His mercy, if we repent and come to Him with a pure heart, we will be forgiven. But the sin of unbelief is not forgiven and the Jews of that day will burn forever as they did not come to the Lord. Their house was left to them desolate. That is the sin unto death the Apostle John wrote about.
Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. 38Look, your house is left to you desolate.
Isaiah 64:10 Your holy cities have become a wilderness, Zion has become a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation. Our holy and beautiful house, Where our fathers praised You, Has been burned by fire; and all our precious things have become a ruin.
Isaiah 1:7 Your land is desolate, Your cities are burned with fire, Your fields–strangers are devouring them in your presence; It is desolation, as overthrown by strangers. These strangers are the powers of darkness that come inside God’s temple and defile it. But the subject of the workings of the enemy, that is everywhere in Scripture has been cut out and forgotten by the fallen away church. We don’t want to scare off anybody a pastor told me, yet they are shedding the blood of innocent souls by not telling the truth.
What Jesus Said To Do:
So my brothers I hope you are beginning to see what the abomination that causes desolation actually is. The powers of darkness have been leading God’s people into sin and rebellion for a very long time. These abominations are also referred to as our Lovers in the Prophets. They bring false comfort and we love our sin more than we love God. That brings death. The prophecy about this abomination wasn’t about when the abomination is established, it was about WHEN YOU SEE IT with your own eyes. This is spiritual discernment. Jesus said once YOU SEE IT, here is what you are to do.
Matthew 24:17-18 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak
Mark 13:30-31 It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31On that day no one who is on the roof of his house, with his goods inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32Remember Lot’s wife!
What Jesus was telling us is that when He reveals to us real understanding of His Word and we actually then see the truth of the gospel; then we are to flee from the apostasy and the false religion. Jesus was not talking about physically packing up and moving, He was speaking of spiritual actions. He was talking about where your heart and your mind are focused. What has your heart, He wants all of it! If you are in this fallen system of religious deception, what Jesus was saying was to get out of it and go to God’s mountain that He has shown you. Come to Him and quit following the liars our enemy.
Not going back to get your coat or goods refers to not going back into the world and lusting after the things of the world. Seek first Him and His righteousness. People will have you believe you need to hurry up and move out of the USA or run into the woods and get out of the cities. We have turned these spiritual lessons into a bunch of bogus theology. Once we see the truth of the WORD, we are not to shrink back from that truth, knowing that the enemy will use our friends, family and religious leaders to do just that.
Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who believe and are saved
I wrote an entire post about this statement of Jesus to REMEMBER LOTS WIFE. Click the link to read it, but this was a huge lesson. Lot’s wife was saved, all she had to do was follow the angels out of Sodom. But she turned back to the world after she was given the truth. She was destroyed. Many Christians come to know God, but then are tricked and deceived in turning back into the world, the prosperity gospel and the like are all works of the devil.
Let me leave the reader with the Words of God spoken to the prophet Hosea that speaks to the false shepherds, false teachers that unwittingly deceived the flock. They bring the abomination that causes desolation into the temple of God. This shows us how Babylon becomes a Mother of Harlots
Hosea 4:8-12
They feed on the sin of My people (TICKLE EARS)
And direct their desire toward their iniquity. (teach practicing sin is okay)
9And it will be, like people, like priest; (the priests themselves do it)
So I will punish them for their ways (God will get vengeance for His temple)
And repay them for their deeds. (nowhere does it ever say, our faith is judged)
10They will eat, but not have enough; (this is the famine of the real WORD of GOD)
They will play the harlot, but not increase, (Man’s way doesn’t add saints to the count)
Because they have stopped giving heed to the LORD. (follow men and their traditions)
Harlotry, wine and new wine take away the understanding. (drunk with a false gospel)
12My people consult their wooden idol, and their diviner’s wand informs them;
For a spirit of harlotry has led them astray, (evil spirits promote, flesh doesn’t have to die)
And they have played the harlot, departing from their God. (they worship image of the beast)
@denise…………….i always hear from the Holy Spirit.
Its not loud…………..its more like…………………..
When an evil thought pops in my mind………….the Holy Spiirt convicts me and thus by His goodness i cut it out of my mind.
When a woman wearing less than she should approaches………………..i hear dont look, abstain thy eyes. This is not the carnal mind that says this to me………….for the carnal mind would Look.
When one wrongs me……………………i hear……………..love those who persecute you and i have love for them, knowing by Grace i was far worse than many……….yet God translated me. and i was reconciled to GOd by Christ…………..while an enemy so i am prompted by the Spirit to walk in love , mercy , an forgivness to all.
Always the Spirit is there guiding me into all truth,,,,,,,,,,,,,and giving me the Power , that i myself would only fail at………….to fullfill the law……………LOVE.
Oh yes…………….all is by Grace.
When i hear do good unto others………………give freely unto them, ask for nothing in return………………yes……………tis by the Spirit…………..
For the flesh, the carnal mind, is indeed enmity against GOd, and can not be subject unto Him.
Tis only by the Spirit i can even call him Lord, have the desire to do good , and have the Power to walk as HE walked. Yes…………..my heart rejoices…………..for i know tis all by Grace.
But let us all take heed unto the constant warnings, the goodness of the Spirit within…………for if we do…………..we shall never fall. And yes………….oh when at lifes darkest moments ……..by His Spirit i am reminded………………ONE DAY HE COMES…………….and what GREAT JOY this gives me now. Amen.
Dear Mark,
Coming together in Agreement sounds Good to me. I am wiling to talk with any saint over the phone. 845-832-3223.
Jesus is One with His Body.
Love and Unity
Hello Sandra! I just wanted to say hello to you – thanks for this post – beautiful!
Randall…..that was very heartening to read. and speaking of “LOWLY” and being set in having that state of mind…I want to share this: – it was the voice of the H.S. when I was walking to work over the summer – it was sometime in late August….I was hot, and tired, I was walking to work – I was feeling extremely “lowly”…and my attitude was not wonderful, to say the least…now I don’t know about you or anyone else on here, but I do not hear from the H.S. every day…well this late afternoon….I did! As I was walking, I had my mind set on thinking how I was nothing more than a tiny “ant” in God’s great Kingdom…and I thought that very thought – that is what my heart expressed and the H.S. picked up on it and responded – “WELL……………BE A GOOD ANT, THEN!”
Something to laugh at and rejoice! It really made me giggle.
Love in Yahshua
Greetings and Peace from our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ:
Romans 11:1-21
1)I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For i also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2)God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, sayin,
3)Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life,
4)But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5)Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6)And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7)What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8)(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9)And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them.
10)Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back always.
11)I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles; for to provoke them to jealousy.
12)Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13)For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles. I magnify mine office.
14)If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15)For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16)For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grqafted in among them, the root and fatness of the olive tree:
18)Boast not agaainst the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19)Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.
20)Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21)For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
God Bless, With Love in Christ Jesus, Sandra
@Mark.
I saw those photos………………all relgions prayer together for common good and world peace.
Not a single muslim, Indian, Buddist, Hindu etc……………..was warned that they NEED TO COME TO CHRIST. It was abomination. But we were warned these days would come.
Now…………..let us pray in one accord for God to use us as He sees fit in the body.
That souls be won…………..that prophesy be given…………..that we prophesy to the edigying of the Body.
Would Paul or Barnabas, James, or Peter have prayed with all different religions as though all seved the same God…………….NOT A CHANCE. But we were warned these days would come.
But ……………….what are we going to about it? Let the world be damned…………..or try and save some. Lets pray to be used for winning souls to the Kingdom. Or pray for me too.
But pray feverently and continously . But i will warn us all…………………let us not just be talkers…………….let us be doers. Give a cup of cold water……………feed your enemy.
Just simple things like that …………..are good works of God. Just simple things like this.
If we begin with what we have………………..we shall be faithful stewards. And as God gives more to the faithful…………..and i dont mean money………………….we shall do more.
But let us begin to work together as a church. PLEASE. Much we will do independently……….but there are some things we can do as one. Even though we are seperated by miles ……………we are one in spirit. Can some of us not meet and have communion………..or pray together for others on the phone. Or read sound doctrine together on the phone. Sandra and i do.
We can and will become closer with one another if we have more frequent fellowship.
Sandra and i have never met personally………….but i can tell you over the many meetings……..i am so joy filled to have a sister in Christ. And you all will be too. No one needs to argue over revelations………..it will keep us divided. Just simple reading, and praying together in agreement over souls being saved, to be used. the more praying together ………..the better. God will use us as He sees fit………………so lets live as though we honestly Love one another. I love all of yous……….even when i have gotten frustrated at a few…………..i still have much love for all.
My family is not those of the flesh. As i have grown in maturity………and still much more needed.
I have not a thing in common wiht my own family of the flesh. Its very often just sad to be around them. The only ones i have anything common with………….are those who love God with the whole heart……….. Its like being a stranger almost eveyrwhere i go. Yet still joy is in my heart when i stay focused on God. But much suffering as well. One thing i know and understand is…………one who truly loves……………..will have much suffering in this world. Not for his own direction ………………but for those who wont come. If one thinks he will put on a cape and save all…………………this i say……………be prepared for much resistance, much hate against you, and many not hearing ………….God wil direct your steps ………….for He knows who shall be saved and who will reject. But we dont…………so just speak and walk in love towards all.
And for this……………i promise they will still despise you. and think you strange, and ye shall be persecuted. But all the persecutions of this world…………..is worth the saving of one soul. And all persecutions and tribulations and sufferins…………..are all worth God recieving the glory from it all.
AMen.
@pete G. Welcome !!!
And amen i tell you. Let us rather focus on doing more for others………..winning souls to Christ.
We aint gonna know it all. Not in these bodies. THough i do read revealtions quite often.
Let God give in his good time what we need to understand………..when we need to understand.
Many have argued over revelations………and many strifes and divisions are over what each think it either right or wrong. When we ought be working as a Church and winning souls to Christ.
I always ask for understanding, knowledge wisdom. But not to know it all.
Just to know right from wrong and to follow that which is truth. Let God have all the glory.
Who am i………………….but one saved by Grace. Let God receive all the glory.
Let me be only the lowliest of the low. And in all i do or say…………..may it not be ever for my own personal glory. Let me be seen as a lowly vagaband…………..Oh but let GOD be seen as ALL IN ALL. Prase the lord. Oh yes ……………….praise his name. For he did indeed call one of the worst when he called me……….and transformed me out of darkness and into His Light.
Oh praise the Lord. Yes may all Praise His Holy Name.
Heres a beautiful prayer for us all…………….
When i saw it ………….i knew it was HOLY SPIRIT FILLED.
Here goes…………
Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace.
Where there is hatred , let me sow love.
Where there is injury , insult;;;; let me pardon.
Where there is doubt, give faith
Where there is despair…. HOPE
Where ther is darkness;;; LIGHT
And where there is sadness… let me sow JOY.
O divine Master, grant that i may NOT so much seek to be consoled , as to CONSOLE.
To be understood…………as to UNDERSTAND.
To be loved, AS TO LOVE.
For it is in GIVING that we RECIVE;
It is in Pardoning that we are Pardoned;
And it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen.
This prayer is very OLD. But can you all not see where it is all about understanding rather than looking wise or being heard. It is MORE FOR THE OTHERS WELFARE above our own.
It is a Holy Spirit filled Prayer. I pray none Judge it when i say who prayed it………Saint Francis.
Although i dont agree with the Roman Catholic Church…………i still know not to speak against truth when i see it. Sometimes people get so blinded by hate…………..they think everything that is spoken in a church is false. But not so peoples. Not so.
Yes these churches have fallen. But let us not condemn everyone in them………..just becuase they still in them. Maybe some stayed to try and hellp the others out. WE do not know their hearts. But i would warn us …………..we ought steer clear of much of theri docttrine.
However………..we ought reach out as well. Let us grow in grace. What is truly know deep in my own heart………….IS I NEED CHRIST AT ALL TIMES EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY.
@ luke wagner.
You are correct on the part that Paul admitted he had not yet attained…………..
The Prize is to win Christ………….
However just know………….that even in James……………….The first chapter…………..James calls the church the elect of God. So let us just move on .
But correct you are……………..we cannot act as though we have yet attained . For we have not yet attained. And any who continue not in Him…………..will never attain.
SO be blessed. But it is okay to call us Gods elect. And always pray we be counted worthy to escape wrath. For Christ even told his disciples pray ye that ye be counted worthy to escape wrath. Keeps away any highmindedness. Not to mention Pual warned about be found accepting of Him whether here or there. That is whether present with him from this body………..or here on earth at His coming. Let us have works worthy of repentance. And always be about the will of the Father. Be blessed Luke Wagner. Thus let us labor , that whether present or absent we may be found accepting of Him. Amen.
Work out that salvation with FEAR and TREMBLING………………but always know it is by Grace.
For tis by the Spriit of GOd…………we even have the desire or abilty for good works. Amen.
SIng Luke ………….sing a mighty praise unto the Lord this evening. Be blessed and may our God cause his face to shine upon you. May you be blessed with all spiritual wisdom. and may all you do be to the glory of the Father………………..amen.
From an article this year in the Fort Worth Star and Sickle[Tribune]– “The pope’s three-day trip is his second to Africa, the fasest-growing region for the Roman Catholic Church. Catholics need to cultivate respect both for Islam and for traditional practices, the pope said. Voodoo priests in flowing robes sat inside their own temple, listening as the pope’s words wafted from the basilica’s sound system.’This is a positive message which will bring peace to Africa’,said Houkpon II Houawamenod, a high priest with his foot on a bottle of gin, a traditional Voodoo spirit offering.’We are simply taking a different road to get to the same place.’—-That sadly, may be true. Here’s your white hat.
Denise
Their are many layers of scripture describing the 1st beast leviathan, and the 2nd beast behemoth in Rev ch 13. What I wrote was the final earthly manifestations of these 2 beasts.
Rev 13-The first beast is pride, and the 2nd beast is lies and flatteries. Flatteries always cause one to become prideful and return to the 1st beast. This exact process took place in the garden of Eden, Eve who had the wrong doctrine became overtaken by the serpent while entering into the dialectic process, then by way of the influence of the serpents flattieries she became seduced having itching ears, and then turned to her own wisdom and became prideful.
The church of Laodocia now has no doctrine left whatsoever, as the flood now covers the whole earth. The church having itching ears seeks to heap upon herself flattering false prophets, that are enticing to the flesh. (the church has 2 horns and looks like lamb, but speaks like a dragon). This 2nd beast the lamb looks very harmless and religious on the surface to the deceived multitudes within the congregations, but it has a dragon speaking dialectic tongue. When there is no gospel message left in the church to restain the evil pride in man rises up. (Job ch 41)
( the 2nd beast behemoth the false prophet trusteth that he can draw up the river Jordon; Job ch 40) no more holy water left, he completly removes the presence of the Holy Ghost in the church.
Then the church will do just as Eve did, she turns to pride. The end times version of collective religious pride is permeating out of Israel. Israel was the beast 2000 years ago when Jesus walked the earth, Israel was not the beast for 1900 years while the church the 2nd beast dominated during the church age, now Israel is rising back up out of the sea. The beast that was, is not, and shall ascend.
Rev 13 John stood on the shore of the sand and the sea. Yahweh has constructed 2 religions, pre-cross and post-cross, and they both turned into beasts.
Like I said; their are other layers to this prophecy in Rev 13 as well. This is just the final collective flesh manifestations that will come out of the spiritual underpinnings which have already taken place.
History is my part, so I will share a little of my part. There are always 2 bad guys one has a black hat, and one has a white hat. The black hat is the obvious evil, but the one wearing the white hat is the one that goes unnoticed, and is the most dangerous.Usually the black hat does not pretend to be a good guy. Today the christian world sees the black hat of Islam, but they are blind to the one wearing the white hat. They still adhear to some kinda twisted mind set, that not all flesh is evil.
Be blessed
Bill
This is why I had thought it was Rome and the Vatican/Pope that was the second beast – I was assuming that the 1st beast was the New World Order – 4th kingdom on earth and the most wicked.. (as most do..)…etc. etc.. evil is as evil does.
The last Pope is still touted as being the most evil yet imaginable (so so they say….you can easily google it and read what is written…)…but now since I have been introduced to your views and the ones here I have found that I need to just stop.
If what you have revealed is the truth, then I need time to absorb it all…peace to you. The ‘answere’ are coming…..amen.
Bill, I am not so certain everything is so cut and dried. The Lord said:
Mt 24:2424 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
The Apostle Paul never claim to have apprehended that for which he was apprehended of, Php 3:12 , the high calling of God in Christ Jesus until shortly before his death where he says a crown of righteousness is laid up for him, 2Ti 4:8 . Paul also said, work out your salvation with fear and trembling, Php 2:12 . Point I am making is this, the deception is a strong delusion and just about every Christian I have ever talked to, irregardless of how little of the truth they knew, believed themselves to be the elect. God has to give one eyes to see and ears to hear, Mt 13:10-16, one would pray that is the case for all of us. And to further complicate matters you have the two geographies one on earth and one in heaven. Have you ever noticed how modern times do not fit the language of Daniel, Revelation and other books of prophecy that talk about the end times. Source for a good article pertaining to this is pasted below. Luke
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d990501.htm
I’ve always been under the impression that I shouldn’t try to figure out what prophecy meant until it was fulfilled. ie., Personally, I believe we should let God serve His wine, lest I would be drunk and not see Him when He comes.
So, for me, I like to watch and see what is happening and if it might indeed fit with prophecy.
Isaiah 62:
6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, [which] shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
8 The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn [to be] meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
10 Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward [is] with him, and his work before him.
12 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.
‘Sought out’?
I look outside and I see a great nation that has ten kings a top of it—the Bill of Rights of the USA? If the little horn has the eyes and mouth of a man, and is different than the others couldn’t that mean that the 10 horns are not actually men? Could this man have to up root three of the first 10 Amendments of this great nation which is truly ‘diverse’ to take control?
What kind of blasphemous things would he say? Is this blasphemous?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pZSvq9bto
I just try to think outside the box. I wonder if this is all happening right now… I wonder if this new city will be a city sought out…I wonder if Revelation is meant to reveal God and not predict what He will accomplish…
The only thing I know for sure is that if I obey His commandments, then I will be His disciple, and then I will know the truth, and the truth will see me free.
Anything else about prophecy isn’t ‘for sure’ in my book. I just like to watch. Who knows.
God Bless you all!
“Globalization presents the demand for solidarity, particularly the construction of a more human world for all.”
John Paul ll May 14 2002, Global Forum in Rome.
“It is the duty of all believers, to whichever religion they belong, to proclaim that we can never be happy pitted one against the other, the future of humanity will never be able to be secured by terrorism and by the logic of war.”
John Paul ll Sunday remarks from studio window, Feb 23, 2003
“…make every effort of avoid new divisions in the world.”
John Paul ll to Prime Minister Tony Blair at meeting at Vatican Feb 21, 2003
“War must never be allowed to divide world religions….”
“…good inter-religious relations are important at this moment of heightened tension in the entire world community.”
John Paul ll to visiting Catholic bishops from Indonesia, the world’s largest Muslim country, Mar 29 2003
“The Holy Father explained the Holy Spirit is mysteriously present in the heart of every person through the practice of what is good in their own religious traditions, and following the dictates of their consciences, members of other religions positively respond to God’s invitation and receive salvation in Jesus Christ, even though they may not recognize Him as their Savior.”
Vatican Information Service reporting on what the Pope had to say on the ‘Seeds of Truth in Non-Christian Religions’, Sep, 1998 (ok it is not a quote but second hand reporting from the Vatican.)
“I also entrust myself once again to you (Mary) and with confident affection I repeat to you: Totus tuus ego sum! I am all yours! ”
John Paul ll on occasion of World Youth Day 2003
An appeal “to all persons who profess a religion so that the spiritual and religious sense may be a source of unity and peace, which never confronts men among themselves.”
John Paul ll Vatican City, when receiving letters of credence of the new ambassadors to the Vatican of 12 countries, May 15, 2003
“International law has been for some time a law of war and peace. I believe it is called ever more to become exclusively a law of peace conceived as a function of justice and solidarity.” (The basic principles behind this conviction, states the communique,) “are the same that inspire the Church’s commitment in favor of peace”… “equality in dignity for every human person and every human community, the unity of the human family…”
“…international law is called to be an instrument of justice .. .the law therefore has the duty of harmoniously regulating international realities… so that conflicts can be prevented without recourse to arms, but rather through mechanisms and structures able to assure justice, removing the causes of potential conflicts.”
John Paul ll in annual address to diplomatic corps accredited to Holy See Jan 13, 1997, quoted July 18, 2003 in theme announcement communique for World Day of Peace (“International Law, a Path for Peace”) set for Jan 1, 2004.
“…all of the just on Earth, including those who ignore Christ and his Church are called upon to build the kingdom of God.”
John Paul ll at an audience Dec 8, 2000 Electronic Telegraph, story no longer online
” A serious threat to peace is posed by intolerance, which manifests itself in the denial of free conscience to others.” John Paul ll
“May all of you–partners in interreligious dialog–be encouraged and sustained by the knowledge that your endeavors are supported by the Catholic Church and appreciated by her as significant for strengthening the bonds which unite all people…”
“…in doing so (receiving monks of other religions) you offer a setting wherein a meeting of mind and heart can take place, a meeting characterized by a shared sense of brotherhood in the one human family that opens the way of even deeper spiritual dialog.”
John Paul ll in meeting between Zen monks and Benedictine monks..he said that they can learn from each other and about their respective meditative practices and spiritual experiences. Theosophical Digest, Dec 1989
(It is) “clear that the future lies in unity and solidarity…”
(He called for ) “strengthening of the bond…between Christians and other great religions which flourish here.”
“May the resources of the church…set unity and love as their supreme goal.”
John Paul ll to Christians in Amman Jordan at a mass. This was part of his week long pilgrimage to the Holy Land to visit Christians, Muslims and Jews for meetings on peace and interfaith dialogue. July 29, 2003
“I come to you as a pilgrim of peace. My presence among you is a sign that the Catholic Church wants to enter a dialogue with the religions of the world.”
“…religion must not be a pretext for conflict….”
“…the peoples of all faiths must shun the path of isolation and division.”
John Paul ll in New Dehli India at a mass in which he drew parallels between Djwali, the Hindu festival of lights. The mass was punctuated by English and Hindi hymns, traditional dances from across Asia and prayers (to who?) offered in several languages. the stadium service was adapted for Hindu culture, with priests ringing bells and showering petals in traditional temple rituals. He later met with Hindu, buddhist, Sikh, Muslim, Jain, Parsee, Jewish and Baha’i leaders. Nov 7, 1999
” …world…will, in fact, be transformed into a world in which the noblest aspirations of the human heart will triumph, a world in which true peace will prevail.”
John Paul ll quoted by sister Loretto Marie Colwell at Service of World Religions for Peace,at which representatives from 10 faith traditions took part, took placed at Christ the King Catholic Church in Topeka. Jan 27, 2002. The service was inspired by a similar gathering that took place Thursday in Assisi, Italy, in which Pope John Paul ll was joined by more than 200 religious leaders from around the world to pray for peace.
The Pope encouraged the bishops of Indonesia to “work together as brothers, committed to peace, with your own people and with those of other religious beliefs, all men and women of good will, in order to ensure understanding, cooperation and solidarity.”
“Authentic religion does not advocate terrorism or violence but seeks in every way the unity and peace of the whole human family.”
John Paul ll in address to bishops in Indonesia March 29, 2003.
“We wish to have Christians and Muslims come together to proclaim before the world that religion must never be a reason for conflict, hatred and violence.”
“…in this historic moment, humanity needs to see gestures of peace and to hear words of hope.”
“It is urgent that a common invocation be raised from earth to heaven, to implore the Almighty…the great gift of peace, the necessary condition for any serious endeavor at the service of humanity’s real progress.”
(He entrusted the success of the initiative to the Blessed Virgin Mary.) John Paul ll , Nov 18, 2001, at meeting of world’s religious leaders, announcing International prayer meeting to take place in Assisi on Jan 24. (a Day of Prayer for Peace)
“I have always believed that religious leaders have a vital role to play in nurturing that hope of justice and peace without which there will be no future worthy of humanity.”
Oct 28, 1999 conclusion of Interreligious Assembly: “On the Eve of the Third Millennium: Collaboration among the Diverse Religions”
“If it is imperative for the international community to foster good relations between people belonging to different ethnic and religious traditions, it is all the more urgent for believers (believers=all religions) themselves to foster relations…leading to the common concern for the well being of the whole human family.”
“…believers are obliged to build together a just and harmonious world.”
“Interreligious dialog will be especially important in establishing a sure basis for peace…”
“…contact with the followers of other religions is often a source of great joy and encouragement. It leads us to discover how God is at work in the minds and hearts of people and indeed in their rites and customs.”
“May Mary, Mother of Jesus and Mother of the Church, intercede for you all … and encourage others to follow the genuine path of dialogue.”
John Paul ll in address to Council for Interreligious Dialogue Nov 11, 2001
After I read that post you left, Bill I literally GASPED.>…..WOW…I never thought even for a second that Israel was or is to be considered as you wrote: “it HAS TO BE ISRAEL. Israel is the beast, and the church is the false prophet. The false prophet causes the whole world to wonder after the 1st beast.”
I keep asking myself this…over and over…we all “have” the Holy Spirit”…but yet when we err in our belief He doesn’t set us straight??” This I will never understand about the Comforter..as I am not comforted now hearing this interpretation… but be that as it may..and nonetheless I will continue to pray to Yahshua…
The New Jerusalem Covenant Project
Moslem and Jewish areas in Jerusalem will be combined with Christian to create the New Jerusalem Covenant: Which will also attract Budism and Hindui will create the OW Religion (little horn) and will be the spiritual equivalent to the political beast the UN.”
“When the religious communities of the world are thus merged, political governments are to simultaneously hold the following political/business conferences:
1. Planetary Goodwill Congress
2. Planetary Human Resource and Disarmament Congress
3. Planetary Environmental Resource and Space Congress
All for your own good of course.
What did Cool hand Luke say? Boss man why dont you stop being so good to me.
Agape
Bill
The book of Daniel does speak of political kingdoms. Gomorrah is formed out of Sodom.
All political kingdoms are formed from religious thought. Daniel is a most unusual book.
It does speak of political kingdoms, the little horn is more stout than the rest. The final political kingdoms of the world will be formulated by the religious thought of the little horn. In our present time-line the secular State of Israel is the little horn, it is not fully developed yet but it was the fig tree that was, is not, and will ascend. Israel will rule the world from its seat of religious power, it will be a form of universalism, heavily influenced by the Vatican. “the whole word will wonder after the best, the migration back to Israel is an unstoppable tidal wave.
Where else can Satan get the whole world to fight over a worthless peace of real estate.
The Christians believe it is the holy Land, the Moslem’s believe it is the Holy Land, and the Jews believe it is the Holy and.
They could try to pull this off in Honolulu, but it just would not work, it HAS TO BE ISRAEL.
Israel is the beast, and the church is the false prophet. The false prophet causes the whole world to wonder after the 1st beast.
Bill
Denise, kings signifies leaders in the early church and all those trying to be leaders. They like to draw disciples after them and not to the Lord. Even today for all those who were called are kings but similarly in the time of kings in Israel, some sought and served God but other forsaken him and didn’t seek his face with the whole heart as some kings did.
Well I’ll tell ya…I’m still not 100% convinced that there will not “an antichrist – one in particular ..I always have thought that Satan comes in the form of a man being the antichrist….so now since I have this new theology formed I have to clear some things up…I’ve been reading and re-reading Daniel…and I’m still confused a bit -
take Daniel 7:20 – I’m reading from my KJV (even though I usually read from my NKJV..)
I know that “horns” are speaking of power – …….who is this referring to here -is it a nation?? …”even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
(21) I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints and prevailed against them;
again…is this a nation or ?
And what about Daniel 7:24…And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten KINGS that shall arise: ‘AND ANOTHER SHALL ARISE AFTER THEM; AND HE SHALL BE DIVERSE FROM THE FIRST, AND HE SHALL SUBDUE THREE KINGS…
Why is it stated as “he”…..he shall…
(25)And “he” shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws; and they shall be given into “his” hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. (3.5 years..)
I must say I know many people and even a few authors of some books on the end times, and they guarantee pretty much that this is an actual “man”….being spoken of here…
“he” thinks to change times and laws….someone even (on another site..) was insinuating that the Pope was going to insitute a “law” that Sunday be the day in which you had to attend church……
??
Amen Brother Randall– Sound doctrine.
My advice to all………………stick to sound doctrine. Reading some of the new things they may claim as old truth………………..can just add confusion. Indeed there is a reason why the church gathered certain letters……….while some remained left out. What we have now in the BIBLE, is accurate. And in this world we can only expect only more delusions or claims of new truth. Tis a way to get us seperated from the truth………..and more easily swayed unto that which is false.
Thus creating a new image of Christ. We must stay in the early doctrines. And steer clear of other stuff………………new greek interpretations. etc. We are in an age of great delusion.
And as Christ made clear…………….we must take heed that we be not decieved.
Be on guard.
I was just clarifying a mistake others have made in regards to tares. According to the parable Jesus stated the tares are children of the wicked(one). Many like to make it appear that the earth is the hearts of man and that tares can be in the hearts of men. But that goes against what Jesus clearly set forth as the terms of the parable.
Mt13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
As far as antichrist come in the flesh and how one interprets it is a wide open field, Paul. Of course there has been and are antichrist that have come in the world. Just before Jerusalem was destroyed there were many antichrists. A very good book that is available online which covers that time period is here:
http://www.askelm.com/restoring/index.asp Start at the 13th chapter
Much of the 24 chapter of Matthew was fulfilled during that time frame. But you do have was,is and will be in regards to prophecy
Paul, the heresy called dispensationalism has in effect brainwashed most of the Christian world and their expectations regarding the end times. It is one thing to take the boy out of Babylon and another thing entirely to take Babylon out of the boy. But one has to be careful in terms of how far one spiritualizing scriptures. A very good study tool is found here:
http://www.scripture4all.org/download/download_ISA20.php
This is a excellent Greek Interlinear I also downloaded the Concordant and Young’s literal versions modules also. Remember that the right click of the mouse button over the different areas of the text and Greek words opens up dialogue boxes. there is a Strong’s Concordance also and one can copy and paste the Strong note off of the editor, which is very handy. Luke
Dear Denise,
That anti-christ spirit is any spirit that does NOT believe that Jesus is the Father God come into the Flesh of a Man.
Keep your eyes on Jesus
Love and Purity
Dear Luke,
Don’t you think there are many antichrists in the world. Spirits that come in the name of Jesus Christ, but are not the True Holy Spirit of Jesus our God?
Jesus is the Master
Love and Wisdom
Okay, yes and AMEN! I was “out there”….ah-HA! Now…..I get it. I can SEE it now, clearly! So many are still waiting though …to be hearing news that “one” in the future – down the not to distant coming months ahead or even years …will actually seat himself on the re-re-built (actual…) temple in Jerusalem…and now I can take my name off of that list! Hoooray!
Much abliged, brother Bill! The Lord is steering me to stay here…and keep reading all of your posts/comments on this site! And I thank you, Lord, Yahshua…He has been speaking to my heart…and directing me this way. Sometimes fb is very disappointing, especially when you have many friends – even though Christian…who are all at different places in Christ…I feel very blessed today!
@ Denise;The Pope is only one of millions who has been and will be possed with the spirit of antichrist.
The is no term “the antichrist” in the scriptures. Also the KJB spells it without a capitol “A” which is written in the proper Christian appilation. The Alexandrian text spells it incorrectly ( the Antichrist) which subtly hints to a specific individual.
“many antichrists” is referenced TWO times in the text, 2 factions of evil. In 2 John 1-7 it is referenced as “many deceivers”—- Paul also references this in in 2 Thes 2 as “the myatery of iniquity”
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there (((many antichrists))); whereby we know that it is the last time.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Agape
Bill
If I may ask this then….what about the Pope and the last “evil” one (or I should say thee most evil one) coming – now clearly the Pope parades around like he IS Christ on earth and I thought that Babylon was the Roman Catholic Church System…. No?
Your comments are very interesting to me – as I have been learning/ studying and praying about understanding the Book of Revelation and the “end times” we are in and have been in, since i became saved, 4 years ago!
SO then….we are not to look for a signed peace treaty then….? We will not actually see the Antichrist as a “man” on this earth? Hmmmmmmmm
Luke
They are both correct, there is an individual reading as well as a collective reading in the text. (when 2 or more are gathered)
The celestial moon is the church, the celestial stars that differ are the sons of God (1 Cor 15)
Agape
Bill
“The idea of the antichrist calling himself God or exalting himself as God is simply the false gospel and seeds of a tares that get installed into people’s hearts. The enemy sows these bad seeds and we eat them because they look attractive to our flesh. ”
The writer of this article made the above statement but is runs counter to what the Lord himself defined as the terms of the parable and the meaning of what a tare is. Outside of that it was a interesting article.
Mt 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Amy, There is no biblical evidence of the name you are referring to. I was once in a cult called the sacred name movement. It is full of confusion and error. Jesus is properly transliterated from the Greek, as we speak English. If you would like more information regarding this, let me know your email and I will be happy to send it to you. My Husband knew a man that translated bibles and he also explained to my husband how it is correct and explained why. God can preserve His word and promised to. He does not expect us to solve riddles for the Son of God’s name. Take care and God bless
..in reply to His Name…
When I pray to Him, and His spirit and joy is in me, I love saying His name, Yahushua. I don’t know how to spell it, or if it is His actual name, as there are so many opinions. But I also use Jesus? Somewhere in the back of my head, I know that Jesus is not really His name. It has become His nickname because of transliterations…..
Joshua = God Saves
Jesus = Joshua
If you were in love with someone, and learned their true name after only knowing their nickname for years, wouldn’t that name be a special thing to know?
Thank you for posting this. I knew after being born-again the Holy Spirit revealed that the Anti-Christ was a ruler of darkness in the world today. I also tell others to watch out for the “incomplete” gospel that I cannot stand (We are saved by grace, we’ll never be perfect, so continue to live as you are . . ). Ugh! I went back to college and took a class called “Intro to Christian Living and Thinking” and the professor would not hear me though I always (because of the Holy Spirit – praise God), had words to say to point out the truth. That delusion is sickening to me. Needless to say, what is the point of Christian college? It is a loss. Up until I was 30, I just thought Jesus died and I was saved. Thank God NOW I know that He rose after 3 days so that I might receive His Holy Spirit. By His grace I know his power and know that He is alive. And I am a woman.
I thirst for this communication with other believers! Where are they? What encouragement! Do you actually attend a church that is teaching the truth?
I love what Paul says about losing all things in order to gain Christ and wanting to know the power of His resurrection and share in the fellowship of His sufferings. Me too. Praise His Holy Name.
I sent you a private message and shared a rough outline of the metaphors and allegories that lead to me to see this as a false temple (church). We have to see the ONE TRUE ISRAEL that always was distincitly from the flesh Israel nation otherwise none of this makes any sense. It is still on my so called “bookshelf” for study and prayer. But I am begining to see it more and more every time I study these very complex passages in Ezekiel.
Can you tell me about your beliefs of the temple mentioned Ezekiel. Or can you send me to a post that describes why it is false. I’m very interested in why you said that.
Thanks!
Pete
Yea, I go by Pete for the same reason . My take on Song of Solomon is a lot different than what is widely taught. I have some drafts of my notes on it but have not felt led to complete it or share it and I have learned to discern when the Spirit is leading me to write or make a video. I see the SONG not being about a lovely wedding of a man and woman but instead telling us of the love affair of man and sin. Sin is the lovers of those that walk after the flesh. I will take another look as it has been many months since I read it.
Ah yes, Peter Peter Pumpkin eater…I’m with you on all the Peter Piper, Peter Pan etc… jazz. That’s why I go by Pete.
You know, it’s occurred to me that when you read the words of Jesus and really see what he’s saying, it’s not what people tend to teach.
It seems he wants us to act like he describes ‘when no one is looking’. Too many people seem to see only the outside of the cup and worry about their own outside.
The wine we are being served, or are about to be served, won’t be able to be put in old skins.
It seems the water will turn bitter for most, and folks that don’t approach Him as a child won’t be able to drink it.
God is going to reveal himself to us through all of this. Individuals, the church, and the world.
You noticed my 10 virgins reference, and yes they are all asleep.
Someone pointed me to the Song of Solomon—they claimed it is about the end times. I think if you read it now you might see the same thing.
When I read the Song of Solomon, it appears to start with this: “If you obey my commandments, you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.”
Do you see too?
Take care,
Pete
Pete and Repeat as I have always been teased. Nice to meet you and thanks for the comment. Yes God is waking people up. It is HIM not us. In the parables of the 10 virgins it says we ALL would be sleeping.
Pete, Your article really freaked me out. About a year ago, I started to see many things that you see.
I’ve articulated to several Christian friends that I felt like Jonah just as you do. I found out that most Christians ‘know it all’ and can’t discuss the possibility of being deceived. They can’t wrap their minds around see things differently.
I do not know for certainty what is happening as you seem to do, but I do believe He is coming, and He is mad.
He is mad at the church most of all. I believe the prophecies are being fulfilled even today perhaps, but I think unless we watch and we stop getting drunk on the wine served by those that buy and sell, we will not see it. God will reveal himself, and he will serve His wine.
I think of Ezekiel 29 when I read your post:
3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, Pharaoh
king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hat
h said, My river [is] mine own, and I have made [it] for myself.
4 But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales.
5 And I will leave thee [thrown] into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.
I believe many people are waiting for something that will never come—not as they see it. I believe people put hope in others to find salvation. They cling to another like a woman to a man. They must get their own oil, but instead they are getting their oil from those that buy and sell.
I’m am glad to know I am not the only one who feels like Jonah. Maybe His Spirit is waking us up.
All I know is that if we obey His commandments, we will know the truth, and the truth will set us free.
Take care brother and thanks for the post!
Pete (my name too)
Pete, thank you for your prayers. please keep me in your daily prayer that true God will finish what he is doing with my spirit. Something is happening after my deliverance out of the church. I can not explain in detail, but it is spiritual only. It is very difficult to find real christians that pray to true God, Jesus. I seen your prayer this early morning in the spirit. You have true spirit of God, please again keep me in your daily prayer.
May true one keep you in his secret place. Palsm 91
Deborah
I will pray for you Deborah, that you will share your testimony more with those God leads you to share. The ignorance about the powers of darkness, demons and the like is widespread. I have a few draft posts that have been work in process for weeks/months as like you I seek strenghth and direction from the Holy Spirit to share at the right time.
Thank you for God’s Word. I’ll share my testimony, recently dec 2009 true God call me out of the church. I was delivered from having an anti-christ spirit in me and other demons. When the spirit of truth came in my life during this deliverance he revealed and shown me satan has seated himself as christ in front of the corporate church known as mystery babylon the great, mother of harlots. judgement is coming. many so called christians are greatly in spiritual captivity of his darkness. I need prayer to finish my testimony to tell other christians the truth as you have mention pete.
May God have mercy on my soul and my family to keep us obediant to his commandments and wash us in his blood through the spirit of truth (holy spirit)and his word.
Cindy, I have been seeking truth on this issue of the NAME. It is on my bookshelf to be studied further and prayed for wisdom. I have begun to use the Hebrew names YWHW and Yahoshua (or variation) at times in my prayers without even thinking about it. If God shows it to us/me, then it is my obligation to obey. So I thank you for your input. I have even seen people that adamantly believe the name Jesus is the devil’s name, so we have to be very wise in this area. For centuries man did not have access to knowledge and materials it does now. Now we have knowledge but also have warnings about deception in the last days and I am concerned about a growing movement that adds back Judiasm to faith in Christ. I continue to study this and again appreciate your input. I will check out the link and I rereading all the books of Moses.
Thank you for obeying the truth from your heart. I appreciate and agree with your perspective on the invisible Spiritual battle that is hidden from many who call themselves The Church. We must continue to stay humble so that we will not refuse any Truth concerning false teaching that the Lord through His Holy Spirit and Holy messenger angels wants to reveal.I want to share something with you Pete as you seem to be sincere about separating from false teaching and the Kingdom of Babylon. I hope you will read this carefully and prayerfully,I will understand if you do not leave it up as a comment, but this is for you. This is with respect to our re-connecting to our Hebraic roots, in particular understanding and calling upon the original NAME revealed to Moses by Adonai (the Tetragrammaton, the I AM or YahWeh because the word ‘God’ is just a title like “president” or “queen” we must separate from those who do not know Him and this leads also to the revelation of Messiah’s true NAME (Jesus is so beautiful, but is merely a Greek transliteration,and could not be THE NAME given by the angel to Mary….) I am not sure myself how to say it correctly but feel that it is not “Ye’shua ” which would have simply been translated into Joshua ~ I do feel strongly that this is an important part of the scrolls (mysteries)that He alone has the authority to open in these last days. Some sites like this one http://www.revelations.org.za/NotesS-Name.htm explain it better than I can, We must be willing to renounce with faith and repentance anything that falls short of His Glory. Although I see that He is longsuffering and kind and as far as those who call on the name of Jesus in true repentance,by which I was saved at nine, I think He loves us as His children. In the same way that my grandson recently “cupped” my face in his little hands and named me Babba, I would never correct him as he is 10 months old…or expect him to pronounce Grandmother or understand until he is able what my given name is…I see the mercy of our Lord over this He examines our hearts and the bondage to the FLESH as you said….but in respect to THE NAME of our LORD it has an eternal meaning…..that we who are mature should understand..~ I always was, always am and always will be the Almighty Your salvation ! (YahWeh shua)It is THE NAME that is above every Name.
Tim, Thanks for coming by and your comments. From where I sit, it is a very lonely road as very few see any of this and most get offended real quick when you try to show them. It comes against their idol. Their church and their doctrine has become an idol and while they are religious, there is no power or true understanding of the truth. So many good people have been deceived, they are religious yet their hearts are still in the world and they are weighed down by its dissipations. We are getting short on time as all the signs of the end are lined up and consistently point to our current world and spiritual condition. I quickly glanced at your link and was impressed and see that you have been given the eyes to see what I am seeing. Praise God who gives all understanding. Look forward to more dialogue about it and checking out your site.
Hallelujah, someone who sees it the way I do. You have done a much better job of explaining things than I do but I blog along these same lines concerning this great end time delusion.
I believe that the abomination that makes desolate is here and we are simply waiting for the “desolation” part of the deal to be fulfilled.
Here is a recent post I did.
http://fleethewrath.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/the-magician-and-the-strong-delusion-of-these-last-days/
God bless,
Tim